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I took the following AI in the OC meeting: "start a thread or book a meeting to discuss next steps in the messaging space per-WG and cross-WG".

@edumerco @edsu @sam @Matt_Noyes I think you are interested in this topic :) would you like to start by discussing here? I can also start a time slot picking process to meet and discuss synchronously.

Also, anyone else that you think would be interested?

@flancian @edsu @sam @Matt_Noyes @mako @ntnsndr @dazinism
On another different line of thought/software, I had really great experiences with Zulip (zulip.com/).

What makes it great from my POV is the serious thread model. It helps to know what is happening, keep context, focus on what matters for you (including notificacions), mark as done, etc.

It is not federated, but it is Free Software and we can self-host it.
Anyone else tried it? Do we want to make a test?

ZulipZulip — organized team chatZulip is an organized team chat app for distributed teams of all sizes.

@edumerco @flancian @edsu @Matt_Noyes @mako @ntnsndr @dazinism I was thinking before that May First has chat and we have May First access but that it probably wouldn't be ideal for us because it is *just* an account and they don't provide a web client or anything (as far as I know?), but it occurred to me later that we could also just use the May First infrastructure and host our own web client (or just a page recommending actual apps for different operating systems).

@sam
@flancian @edsu @Matt_Noyes @mako @ntnsndr @dazinism

There is (or was, at least) a simple but effective web client really, I've used it a long time ago.
I will search for it. :)

@sam @flancian @edsu @Matt_Noyes @mako @ntnsndr @dazinism

Today I checked with @mayfirst and I was wrong, there is no XMPP web client there.
However, any XMPP program can work with their service. :)
Should we explore with them if is possible to have some private rooms?

@edumerco @sam @flancian @Matt_Noyes @mako @ntnsndr @dazinism @mayfirst I'm not sure they need to be private? I didn't know that Mayfirst provided an XMPP server, thanks for sharing that!

@edsu @edumerco @sam @flancian @Matt_Noyes @mako @ntnsndr @dazinism

yes! workers use it every day so we know it's properly working but not so many members do it so welcome more people there!

Welcome to this talk @mayfirst ! Glad to have you here! :)
AFAIK today social coop has 1 MF account only that it is used to authenticate and log in.
Can we use the XMPP service with many people? If yes, how?

@edsu @sam @flancian @Matt_Noyes @mako @ntnsndr @dazinism

Sam Whited

@edumerco @mayfirst @edsu @flancian @Matt_Noyes @mako @ntnsndr @dazinism I do think exploring a partnership here would be beneficial (if it's something other mayfirst folks would be interested in, I can bring it up on the internal mayfirst forums if the team needs more details), but I think for our needs it would require them to run a custom configuration just for social.coop, so it would be more complicated than just using mayfirsts existing XMPP server.

@sam yes! starting a new thread in TIAS or Engangement discourse would be the best so more people from those groups can join in the conversation

@edumerco @edsu @flancian @Matt_Noyes @mako @ntnsndr @dazinism