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small circle 🕊 in calmness

Reminder: AS/AP-based suffers from based ad-hoc expansion unless we find common practices and stick to them. Collaboration across a commons is essential here. Just coding your app with custom protocol extension is contributing to and increasing complexity to facilitate broad .

The process and are where collective effort and proactive participation can improve for all. We need a bottom up standardization process.

Scene from Indiana Jones Raiders of the Lost Ark, where Indy is fleeing a tunnel vision with a huge boulder in pursuit. The boulder is named "Protocol Decay" and Indy is labeled "Fediverse".
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Evan Prodromou

New Charter for the W3C SocialCG

I want to draw attention to an administrative process at the W3C Social Web Community Group (SocialCG), the standards group that manages ActivityPub and Activity Streams 2.0 and a number of other open social networking standards. The group is considering a new charter to define how decisions are made and how the members work together. This might seem like a minor process, but it's actually part of a bigger deal for the Fediverse. To see why, you need to understand the structure of the […]

socialwebfoundation.org/2024/1

Social Web Foundation · New Charter for the W3C SocialCG
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Social Web Community Group

#SocialCG will be talking about the future of #ActivityPub -ish work items governance processes at W3C in two days at 5pm UTC (10am PT) and YOU are invited.

lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/p

You may also want to peruse some potential CG/WG charter ideas.
e.g. if there is another WG (unlike CG, usually only open to W3C Member Organizations and a few IEs) should it be a focused ActivityPub WG or a more big tent 'SocialWG 2.0' with many work items unrelated to ActivityPub?
github.com/swicg/potential-cha

lists.w3.orgOctober SWICG Call - Governance and Charters from Dmitri Zagidulin on 2024-10-02 (public-swicg@w3.org from October 2024)
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Evan Prodromou

For #SocialCG issue triage:

I've got a medical appointment for tomorrow in the hour before the CG meeting, so I'm going to move to the hour *after* the CG meeting.

I realize that changing the time is inconvenient to participants and I appreciate your patience.

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Evan Prodromou

Based on our decision in the last #SocialCG meeting, I set up a new GitHub repository for the #ActivityPub HTML Discovery Task Force.

github.com/swicg/activitypub-h

I added what I think are some of the most important tasks and user stories. I hope others contribute, too!

github.com/swicg/activitypub-h

Contribute to swicg/activitypub-html-discovery development by creating an account on GitHub.
GitHubGitHub - swicg/activitypub-html-discoveryContribute to swicg/activitypub-html-discovery development by creating an account on GitHub.
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julian

This is a spin-off discussion from today's ForumWG meeting

During today's ForumWG meeting an interesting side discussion cropped up regarding what constitutes an Actor, and whether other object types could be considered Actor-like.

ActivityStreams defines an Actor as being one of five types:

  • Application
  • Group
  • Organization
  • Person
  • Service

However, a looser definition of an Actor could simply be "if the resolved object contains an inbox and an outbox".

Such a definition opens up the possibility of having lots of things be followable, perhaps without direct user interaction. This was one possibility outlined by @cpmoser@mastodon.social

@trwnh@mastodon.social also mentioned that Mastodon does not consider an object as being an actor unless it is one of those five types.

@dmitri@social.coop noted that this was a topic brought up at a previous AP issue triage meeting. Could you provide a summary?

Also cc @evan@cosocial.ca for his thoughts.

#activitypub#forumwg#socialcg
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Evan Prodromou

@davew nobody can define who accesses the fediverse. It's an open system, based on DNS, and there's no gatekeeper.

Meta is a member of the #SocialCG and is standards-oriented. They are very interested in finding standard ways to implement Threads features like reply controls.

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jon ⚝

@bhaugen @nick @wikicafe @ecobytes

Are there good Mastodon clients for managing multiple accounts?

I only knew TweetDeck back in the day and how one could delegate permissions to other accounts. How would that work here?

Nice crossover question for the triage federated identity X federated groups X federated permissions.

That's esp. where Solid and ActivityPub departed from each other in the #SocialWG. I mean, they even share JSON-LD as RDF markup.
Btw., is there a #SocialCG by any means?

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