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Ed Summers

It might sound weird to say this about the impact of a website, but Bandcamp really has transformed my musical interests and, as a result, my life. I have been able to cultivate & help support a small, shifting, virtual community of artists and listeners that I learned from over the past 13 years. So, it is very sad to hear about the recent sell-off, layoffs and plunder.

cc/ @bandcampunited

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Ed Summers

This post from @pettter has me wondering if there are any efforts yet to start to think about what a similar run service might look like?

mastodon.acc.umu.se/@pettter/1

It seems like Bandcamp is past the startup stage where it could ?
colorado.edu/lab/medlab/2020/0

As much as I personally align with decentralization, there does seem to be some value in a centralized platform for managing payments, storage and discovery for artists whose livelihood depends on trust.

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Mastodon @ UMUpettter (@pettter@mastodon.acc.umu.se)It's funny: Both Bandcamp and Patreon had the easiest and most straightforwardly long-term profitable business models imaginable: Sit between indie creatives and their fans, provide some basic services for mediation (comment sections, media posts, semi-global payment) and take enough of a cut of any payments to cover the costs and then some. But because that business model wouldn't scale forever, they are instead being gutted, because ever _increasing_ growth is the only model capital accepts
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Ed Summers

If anyone has any leads for how to tap into, or start, a conversation about what a run music platform like bandcamp could look like please let me know.

It seems like there must be a very large number of people who would be supportive of a cooperatively run AND FUN site like Bandcamp, that was self sustaining, supported artists, supported its workers, and had a clear governance model.

If it was open-source and could federate that would be great of course too. But first things first.

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Ed Summers

@mike yes, I have a bit. It is easily installed with yunohost in fact!

Maybe this is offbase, but it seems to be oriented around decentralized sharing with friends than helping artists & labels get paid for their work and having fans who help support them?

I suspect those features could be added on? I also think there is value in having some centralization & governance so that artists can focus on their work rather than sysadmin? But maybe there could be a recognizable & trusted instance?

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Mike Taylor 🦕

@edsu I don't know anything about it myself, only that it exists.

And yes, for regular bands to use it, it would need there to be one or more trusted hosts so they don't have to think about this stuff.

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