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#gplv2only

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Kevin Karhan :verified:

@landley @burnoutqueen Yeah...

#GPLv3 is a desaster as it's 99% ideology and 1% license text and alongside #AGPLv3 completely ignores the reality of how #licensing and #patents and #IP works.

  • Not that I like the status-quo, but we'd rather see businesses steer clear of anything GPLv2+ or GPLv3 or worse.

And on the flipside we basically get "source available" stuff like #SSPL which only serves as a means to commit #AssetDenial and monopolize commercial offerings...

#linux#gplv2only#fsf
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Kevin Karhan :verified:

@Elucidating well, #AGPLv3 and #GPLv3 demand things that are often not legally possible, like providing free and perpetual licenses to #patents and #tech adjacent to it.

That - among many other considerations, is why #Linux is #GPLv2only!

If you want to commit #AssetDenial, then #GPLv3 & #AGLv3 is for you but I've run that experiment too and it doesn't get any more contributions out of people than #0BSD.

Now you may think my shitty little projects like @OS1337 & #NUCbook don't count and that is valid, but @landley did maintain #BusyBox and he did the test as well and all the #litigation and #enforcement resulted in 0 lines of #code being contributed back to BusyBox...

And the folks behind #Samba now regret going GPLv3...
mstdn.jp/@landley/112135455741

mstdn.jpRob Landley (@landley@mstdn.jp)@lunch@tilde.zone @kkarhan@infosec.space @Yuki@groupe-tazor.com @smallcircles@social.coop Linus Torvalds explained his dislike of GPLv3 here: https://youtu.be/PaKIZ7gJlRU Jeremy Allison (The Samba maintainer) gave a half hour talk on how much he now regrets moving to GPLv3 here: https://archive.org/details/copyleftconf2020-allison (Samba usage fell off a cliff when it went gplv3: Linux created ksmbd in the kernel, and Apple created smbx explicitly because gplv3: https://www.osnews.com/story/24572/apple-ditches-samba-in-favour-of-homegrown-replacement/ ) When GCC went GPLv3 development on LLVM took off, etc. Dozens of examples..
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OS/1337

@geraldew @RTP I think #Linux being #GPLv2 is good.

Would a lot of people prefer it to be #BSD?
Yes, myself included.

Are some neckbeards angry it's #GPLv2only and not #GPLv3 or #AGPLv3?
Yes, but I don't think they matter beyond needing to quarantine them for their toxicity.

Fact is: @linux is a good project and solid product as well, and @torvalds managed to get both businesses and individuals behind it, resulting in a very versatile common denominator of kernel.

That's why I chose if for #OS1337...

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