Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mstdn.jp/@landley" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>landley</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://todon.nl/@burnoutqueen" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>burnoutqueen</span></a></span> Yeah...</p><p><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/GPLv3" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>GPLv3</span></a> is a desaster as it's 99% ideology and 1% license text and alongside <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/AGPLv3" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>AGPLv3</span></a> completely ignores the reality of how <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/licensing" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>licensing</span></a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/patents" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>patents</span></a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/IP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>IP</span></a> works.</p><ul><li>Not that I like the status-quo, but we'd rather see businesses steer clear of anything GPLv2+ or GPLv3 or worse.</li></ul><p>And on the flipside we basically get <em>"source available"</em> stuff like <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SSPL" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SSPL</span></a> which only serves as a means to commit <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/AssetDenial" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>AssetDenial</span></a> and monopolize commercial offerings...</p><ul><li>I think <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Linux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Linux</span></a> being <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/GPLv2only" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>GPLv2only</span></a> is a good compromise and my personal gripes with <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/FSF" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FSF</span></a> & <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/GNUtils" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>GNUtils</span></a> as well as <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/GlibC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>GlibC</span></a> are something different...</li></ul>
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Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastos.online/@Nicholasr_ITSulu" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>Nicholasr_ITSulu</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@nixCraft" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>nixCraft</span></a></span> <em>nodds in agreement</em> and since there are so many stakeholders with opposing interests <em>and</em> a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/copyleft" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>copyleft</span></a> license, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/GAFAMs" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>GAFAMs</span></a> can't <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/enshittify" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>enshittify</span></a> or <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/tivolize" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>tivolize</span></a> it!</p><ul><li>And due to <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/GPLv2only" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>GPLv2only</span></a> eben a move to <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/AssholeLicensing" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>AssholeLicensing</span></a> like <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/AGPLv3" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>AGPLv3</span></a> or <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SSPL" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SSPL</span></a> is not possible!</li></ul>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@Elucidating" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>Elucidating</span></a></span> well, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/AGPLv3" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>AGPLv3</span></a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/GPLv3" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>GPLv3</span></a> <em>demand</em> things that are often not <em>legally possible</em>, like providing free and perpetual licenses to <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/patents" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>patents</span></a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/tech" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>tech</span></a> adjacent to it.</p><p>That - among many other considerations, is why <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Linux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Linux</span></a> is <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/GPLv2only" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>GPLv2only</span></a>!</p><p>If you want to commit <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/AssetDenial" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>AssetDenial</span></a>, then <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/GPLv3" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>GPLv3</span></a> & <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/AGLv3" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>AGLv3</span></a> is for you but I've run that experiment too and it doesn't get any more contributions out of people than <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/0BSD" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>0BSD</span></a>.</p><p>Now you may think my shitty little projects like <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://infosec.space/@OS1337" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>OS1337</span></a></span> & <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/NUCbook" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>NUCbook</span></a> don't count and that is valid, but <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mstdn.jp/@landley" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>landley</span></a></span> did maintain <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/BusyBox" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>BusyBox</span></a> and he did the test as well and all the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/litigation" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>litigation</span></a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/enforcement" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>enforcement</span></a> resulted in 0 lines of <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/code" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>code</span></a> being contributed back to BusyBox...</p><p>And the folks behind <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Samba" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Samba</span></a> now regret going GPLv3...<br><a href="https://mstdn.jp/@landley/112135455741147578" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">mstdn.jp/@landley/112135455741</span><span class="invisible">147578</span></a></p>
OS/1337<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fosstodon.org/@geraldew" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>geraldew</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fosstodon.org/@RTP" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>RTP</span></a></span> I think <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Linux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Linux</span></a> being <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/GPLv2" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>GPLv2</span></a> is good.</p><p>Would a lot of people prefer it to be <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/BSD" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>BSD</span></a>?<br>Yes, myself included.</p><p>Are some neckbeards angry it's <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/GPLv2only" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>GPLv2only</span></a> and not <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/GPLv3" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>GPLv3</span></a> or <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/AGPLv3" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>AGPLv3</span></a>?<br>Yes, but I don't think they matter beyond needing to quarantine them for their toxicity.</p><p>Fact is: <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mstdn.social/@linux" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>linux</span></a></span> is a good project and solid product as well, and <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://social.kernel.org/users/torvalds" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>torvalds</span></a></span> managed to get both businesses and individuals behind it, resulting in a very versatile common denominator of kernel.</p><p>That's why I chose if for <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OS1337" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OS1337</span></a>...</p>
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