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So @gnome is removing the x11 session, leaving just the Wayland one.

If this goes out before Orca, the GNOME screen reader, is fixed to work on Wayland, it will mean that people who rely on screen readers will have no way to use one on GNOME. And thus on the major Linux distributions.

So I’m hoping the plan is that this change will not land until GNOME has a working screen reader.

#accessibility #a11y #gnome #linux #openSource #foss #wayland #x11 #orca peoplemaking.games/@ailepet/11

People Making Gamesailepet (@ailepet@peoplemaking.games)@noracodes@tenforward.social @aral@mastodon.ar.al @zeorin@indieweb.social For now: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-session/-/merge_requests/99
Michael T. Bacon, Ph.D.

@aral @gnome

As much as I loved X11 30 years ago its time has long since come and gone. Absolutely sucks about the screen reader though.

@MichaelTBacon @aral @gnome I'm not sure what your point is. Is the existence of x11 stopping you from using wayland?

@vanderZwan @aral @gnome

Maintaining an X11 version of everything takes a lot of effort that could be better directed elsewhere (like into making a functional screen reader).

But if I get into a broader rant about resource allocation, direction, and prioritization in the GNOME project for the past 20 years I'll never stop.

@vanderZwan @MichaelTBacon @gnome Wayland doesn’t have a functional screen reader. So people who rely on screen readers cannot use Wayland-based sessions.

@aral @vanderZwan @gnome

I agree and that needs to be fixed pronto. I fully agree with your comment. Relying on X11 support to keep major functionality going forward is a really, really bad work around and is unfair to people who rely on screen readers.

(EDIT: slightly misread your angle on this the first time, we're in either full or almost full agreement, I think.)