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Dr. Matt Lee is at hireme.fyi

Got handed two VPS machines. Both in bad need of an OS update.

One running Ubuntu 14.04, one running CentOS7.

The Ubuntu one is now downloading updates from 24.04 after upgrading it to 16, 18, 20, 22... I can't even get CentOS 7 to update to CentOS 8 :/

The fact that all the mirrors appear to have just been removed isn't great either.

@mattl I don't live in RHEL land anymore, but I want to say 7 to 8 did not have an in-place upgrade path.

@thomzane There's leapp, but apparently I need more RAM on this machine. Linux needs more than 1GB of RAM now, but only if from Red Hat?

Why are all the CentOS 7 mirrors gone?

@mattl There was a big change up in CentOS a few years back where CentOS ended and was reborn as a rolling release or something and two community projects tried to take its place: Rocky rockylinux.org/ and Alma almalinux.org/

RHEL also changed the contract surrounding it's code base.

rockylinux.orgRocky LinuxRocky Linux is an open enterprise Operating System designed to be 100% bug-for-bug compatible with Enterprise Linux.

@thomzane Yep, I remember all that. I was involved with Rocky very early on as it got started.

Not sure why CentOS Stream or would mean mirrors.mit.edu, etc would remove a mirror of CentOS 7 at the same time? I'm going to try putting Rocky 9, Ubuntu LTS and Windows 11 on a desktop later.

(Windows 11 for NVDA screen reader)

@mattl @thomzane

Don't know about the internals. I used it before to update to alma from c7 and had no issues. The VM had 1G and a lot of swap space. It ran better with 2G after the upgrade.... Disabled many services.

@gbraad @thomzane I’ll try Alma but I’m close to giving up on it already. The Ubuntu machine has been up and running all day on 24.04 and just happily doing its thing.

@mattl Unless the sysadmin running the server (you in this case) is actively trying to get or keep a job that primarily uses Red Hat or you really like their SELinux defaults, I do not think it makes sense to keep the server in the CentOS sphere. I'd probably migrate it to Debian at this point.

@thomzane Yeah, if I wipe it I'll just go down the route of Ubuntu again.

My choices are: CentOS 7, Debian 9, Ubuntu 18 (lowest for a new server) or Windows something.

@thomzane Oh and Debian 10. I'd rather standardize everything on Ubuntu LTS.

@mattl
Do you know the Rotate, Repave, Repair pattern?
Many times its easier to migrate the services to a new system, instead of upgrading the old one.

@yala Yeah, but there’s no good way to reinstall this machine from an ISO, sadly.

@lasombra_br Yeah, I'm just surprised how much "CentOS" as was has been burned down in the process of moving to CentOS Stream.