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Listen there are four important qualities to me in a laptop, going forward:
- I can run Guix on it, I will accept having to use nonguix to do so (though I would like to not have to)
- I can run Blender on it with FOSS GPU drivers
- I can install a lot of ram in it for when I foolishly decide to recompile a bunch of packages while needing to get work done
- I can repair the damned thing

@cwebber Most of those requirements point towards something that isn't a laptop.

@cwebber Because laptops don't usually let you install RAM at all beyond what they are manufactured with, let alone lots of it. Repairing is also mostly out of the question. A notable exception on both counts is the Framework laptops, at least on paper. Maybe one of them fits your needs.

@mansr @cwebber I've had more laptops that I can install RAM on than laptops I cannot. I'm currently rocking two laptops, one started with 4 and is rocking 32, one started with 12 and is rocking 64. Only laptop I've ever personally used that s doesn't have RAM upgrade ability is my work laptops, one Lenovo and one Mac.

@rallias @cwebber It is obviously possible to only buy the rare laptops that can be upgraded, and you've obviously done that. Stop pretending your choices are representative of the market at large.

Also, 64 GB isn't exactly a lot these days.

@mansr @rallias I bought an off the shelf Dell laptop from Best Buy once, one of those cheap ones they specifically make for Best Buy, and upgraded the ram in it

@cwebber In my experience, laptops that are actually portable without a hand truck have very few upgradable parts. This makes sense since sockets add size and weight. Personally, if it ends up being that bulky anyway, I'd rather get a desktop with better performance for half the price.

Every laptop I've ever owned has supported a RAM upgrade, including those I've bought in a panic with little research because my existing unit died. There are plenty out there.

Maybe don't be such a jerk about it?

@mansr@society.oftrolls.com @rallias@hax.social @cwebber@social.coop