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Kevin Karhan :verified:<a href="https://infosec.space/@CppGuy" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@CppGuy</a> One word: <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Tetraetyllead" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Tetraetyllead</a><ul><li>But fear not, when a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/BEV" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#BEV</a>'s battery has a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ThermalRunoff" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ThermalRunoff</a> (cuz they use shitty <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/LiCo" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#LiCo</a> ( <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/LiPo" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#LiPo</a> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/LiIon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#LiIon</a>) and not <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/LiFePO4" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#LiFePO4</a>) they'll release a white cloud of <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/FluoricAcid" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#FluoricAcid</a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/vapours" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#vapours</a> and then start a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/MetalFire" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#MetalFire</a> that is basically "unextinguishable" (as in the only proven strategy is to throw dry sandbags in it and hope it glasses itself like the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ElephantsFoot" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ElephantsFoot</a> from <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Chornobyl" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Chornobyl</a>...</li></ul>IMHO it'll be inevitable that <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Methanol" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Methanol</a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/FuelCell" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#FuelCell</a>-based <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/EV" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#EV</a>|s will be the future simply because: 1.<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Lithium" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Lithium</a> is scarce & expensive 2.<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/refueling" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#refueling</a> will always be faster than <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/charging" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#charging</a> 3.<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/EnergyDensity" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#EnergyDensity</a> of Methanol exceeds that of any <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/battery" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#battery</a> 4.<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/FussilFuel" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#FussilFuel</a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Corporations" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Corporations</a> can simply switchover pumps and flex their <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/EconomyOfScale" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#EconomyOfScale</a> and existing <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Logistics" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Logistics</a> to flood the market with cheap Methanol even if it has to be made 100% sustainable and without any fossil resources. 5.<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/EnergyStorage" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#EnergyStorage</a> is another problem and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/FuelCells" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#FuelCells</a> can replace both <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/EmergencyPower" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#EmergencyPower</a> systems running if <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Diesel" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Diesel</a> as well as the average <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/gasoline" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#gasoline</a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/generator" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#generator</a>.Not to mention there needs to be <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SystemChangeNotClimateChange" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#SystemChangeNotClimateChange</a> and that necessitates way better <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PublicTransport" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#PublicTransport</a>, regardless if <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Trains" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Trains</a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Trams" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Trams</a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Trolleybuses" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Trolleybuses</a> or <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/FuelcellBuses" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#FuelcellBuses</a> (in that order)...<ul><li>Otherwise shit won't change.</li></ul>OFC what any <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/BEVs" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#BEVs</a> won't fix is the fact that most particle emissions are <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/tire" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#tire</a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/brake" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#brake</a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/dust" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#dust</a>...<ul><li>And those are inherebtly unavoidable.unless we want to sacrifice <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/RoadSafety" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#RoadSafety</a>!</li></ul>

Kevin Karhan :verified:<a href="https://infosec.exchange/@JessTheUnstill" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@JessTheUnstill</a> EXACTLY!<ul><li>THROW IT OUTSIDE WITH SOMETHING LIKE A SHOVEL AND THE SHOVEL AS WELL!</li></ul><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/LithiumBatteries" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#LithiumBatteries</a> are <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/MetalFires" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#MetalFires</a> and thus extremely hot.<ul><li>Plus they also release <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/FluoricAcid" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#FluoricAcid</a> vapours which are propably the most dangerous shite a person can be exposed that isn't straight-up a chemical warfare agent!</li></ul>VACATE THE AREA AND TELL EVERYONE TO ALSO VACATE IT!<ul><li>The only way to "extinguish" a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/MetalFire" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#MetalFire</a> like <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Lithium" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Lithium</a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Magnesium" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Magnesium</a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Sodium" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Sodium</a> is to literally suffocate it in DRY SAND and let the heat cause it to literally glass itself...</li></ul>As a fmr. firefighter I can account that any <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/LithiumBattery" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#LithiumBattery</a> fire would be left to controllably burn out when feasible because there ain't <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/HAZMAT" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#HAZMAT</a> suits rated for such heat exposure and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Nomex" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Nomex</a> won't protect against gaseous exposures and fumes, which is why firefighters sometimes have to undress with the respirator on to not get intoxicated from the fumes in their jackets when facing a regular household fire...

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