mike_hales 💔*!?¿* @mike_hales@social.coop

Recently I’m referring back to a tradition of design that may be unfamiliar to cooperators & hackers here. So some references. Scandinavian 80s/90s tradition of work oriented design of computer artefacts, and a collective resource tradition of codesign with labour unions. From days before P2P code hacking, web apps & digitally mediated organisation, invites remixing in today’s coop practice. Tool notions, coproduction principle and weaving of tech, theorising and democracy are valuable. 1of2

@liaizon @Matt_Noyes I started in fed wiki about 6 months ago - thanks Silke Helfrich. Here are some resources.
A personal wiki
http://mh.federated.wiki
Pattern language
http://pattern.resources.federated.wiki
Navigating in wiki
http://pattern.resources.federated.wiki/view/welcome-visitors/mhresources.federated.wiki/how-to-fedwiki
How federatation works in wiki
http://mhresources.federated.wiki/wiki-literacy.html
Fed wiki folks are keen on graphs. A few links here
http://mhresources.federated.wiki/wiki-features-alphabetical.html
There's been discussion in Loomio open app ecosystem group, including how to create your own wiki
https://www.loomio.org/d/r7T9o6b2/fedwiki/6
@yala

I've had an awareness for a couple of years, of Zuckerberg's intention to steal banking from the bankers, and pull the world's poorest smartphone users into a sticky platform-banking web. On cue, here comes #libracoin!
See @matslats of the #OpenCreditNetwork, on Libracoin
https://opencredit.network/2019/07/24/our-position-on-facebooks-proposed-libracoin/

And more here on class war among the old and new bankers
https://www.noncorporate.org/build-global-moneyless-trading-system/
Slugging it out soon with China?

Puzzled . . @mako makes a clear pitch on "Free software production needs free tools" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_nK6nP_RCY&feature=youtu.be
And is very clear on #commons and #P2P (though says most code comes from solo not collaboration!). Yet not a hint of coop ownership of #platforms to keep tools honest & open (GitHub!). Surely tools today become platforms? And platforms require collaboration even if code doesn't? So why doesn't #coop follow automatically, as we talk tools? How does libre not equal coop in FLOSS world?

@Jami
Jami crashed after recording and sending an audio message.

@Jami
Exploring Jami on MacxOS.
Finding a contact in <search> then clicking on it to see what happens - the app crashes, every time. The thing to do is right-click - then the contact can be added. Crashing isn't helpful.
In a call, I had annoying audio feedback (like earth-loop hum) and echoing of my own speech.

@Matt_Noyes
Could you edit your link to my Etherpad summary on #platformtools and making the #livingeconomy posted in Nathan Schneider's Loomio thread? I've now recreated that document as a wiki - easier to read, not open to unintended corruption, and possibly ongoing as a discussion. I've posted the link in a reply to your comment. Cheers.
This is the link
http://mhopen2020.federated.wiki/view/welcome-visitors/view/platform-tools--making-the-living-economy

@Jami
Had first Jami call today. Connected with no problem. A P2P connection, no server - magical !
Two things
- my other half could not transmit their video to me even tho they had it on their own screen. I got their static icon instead. They were running on Ubuntu.
- I had annoying audio feedback and echo of my voice. I was running on MacOS.
So we had a slightly lopsided call. Both had audio, one had video. One had good audio the other had feedback.
Any diagnosis of this?

@Jon_Envisioneer
I'm on my way to migrating from #DevonThink to #Joplin. DT offered to manage all docs on my device but interface is cluttered & app over featured? Runs slow sometimes. Web clipper isn't perfect. Proprietary and paid-for.

Joplin is plain vanilla FLOSS mimic of #Evernote. Markdown :) Web clipper is clean, works nicely. File transfer from DT was tedious, Joplin uses ENX as import format, DT doesn't export that. Even so, I've ported my main docs & hope to use simple Joplin now

social.coop coworking coffeetime
Drop by some time?

@bhaugen
Thanks for Open Data links Bob. Data Central looks very thorough. Entangled Bootstrap page is a who's who? Requires drilling down into participants' sites, yes?
Github link is dead - "server cannot be reached". Temporary? If available, would carry quite a bit of the detail implied by the Bootstrap site? Hmmn, a bit deep for me.
The Data Central site is about my level of patience and stamina! But I guess that's just one stance. Is the Bootstrap stuff 'a stance' too, or pretty catholic?

Care coops. And post-money, post-virus. There could be something stirring in Kirklees, Yorkshire, using mutual credit. See the loomio group on Open Credit Network.
https://www.loomio.org/d/b7sHv2LV/working-with-local-networks/12
This might need membership to access. If you need the post copied, let me know. I can make a pdf copy.

Edited reposting, with permission, from MayFirst Movement Technology
>Today's Need to Know on "Free Software During the Corona Virus Pandemic" was attended by over 100 people. It was recorded and here's the link:
https://mayfirst.coop/en/audio/free-software-during-corona-virus-pandemic/
> Here's a link to the statement of alternatives for live meetings, that Jaime spoke of
https://mayfirst.coop/en/post/2020/content-alternatives-live-meetings/
>All our audio presentations are available on our audio page:
https://mayfirst.coop/en/audio/
>We're already working on April's Need to Know