mike_hales 💔*!?¿* @mike_hales@social.coop

I've had an awareness for a couple of years, of Zuckerberg's intention to steal banking from the bankers, and pull the world's poorest smartphone users into a sticky platform-banking web. On cue, here comes #libracoin!
See @matslats of the #OpenCreditNetwork, on Libracoin
https://opencredit.network/2019/07/24/our-position-on-facebooks-proposed-libracoin/

And more here on class war among the old and new bankers
https://www.noncorporate.org/build-global-moneyless-trading-system/
Slugging it out soon with China?

@switchingsoftware
What platforms would you suggest for wiki hosting? Including system admin service. And a solid, easy to use wiki content admin interface?

Also for website writing (and hosting), with tools as good as, say, Wix? And a reasonable though not extravagant selection of templates.

British left-of-Labour mag Red Pepper has a pull-out on transatlantic revival of socialist perspectives. One article is on the open web
https://www.redpepper.org.uk/election-2019-transatlantic-socialism-rising/
The pull-out comes from the Democracy Collaborative who are involved in ghost-writing Corbyn policy eg worker ownership & control. Not 100% excited about DC myself but the labour of UK-US joining-up does need to be done by somebody. Would be glad to know what American inhabitants make of the overview?
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Puzzled . . @mako makes a clear pitch on "Free software production needs free tools" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_nK6nP_RCY&feature=youtu.be
And is very clear on #commons and #P2P (though says most code comes from solo not collaboration!). Yet not a hint of coop ownership of #platforms to keep tools honest & open (GitHub!). Surely tools today become platforms? And platforms require collaboration even if code doesn't? So why doesn't #coop follow automatically, as we talk tools? How does libre not equal coop in FLOSS world?

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Articles' authors - Peter Gowan, Joe Guinan, Sarah McKinley, Robert Borosage, Marjorie Kelly, Sarah Jaffe, Dana Brown, Stephanie Gutierrez. Most have Democracy Collaborative/Next System affiliations. Topics include US industrial democracy, labor movement, anti-Pharma movement, community wealth & native peoples.

British left-of-Labour mag Red Pepper has a pull-out on transatlantic revival of socialist perspectives. One article is on the open web
https://www.redpepper.org.uk/election-2019-transatlantic-socialism-rising/
The pull-out comes from the Democracy Collaborative who are involved in ghost-writing Corbyn policy eg worker ownership & control. Not 100% excited about DC myself but the labour of UK-US joining-up does need to be done by somebody. Would be glad to know what American inhabitants make of the overview?
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Don't you just hate it when the Zoom call ends, and the chat window disappears before you have time to clip its contents to some other app!! Just happened with social.coop happy hour 💔 🙄

How to run your own social media site
https://runyourown.social/
The author explores the topic via a forked-Mastodon example, used by a group of friends: he says 'Keep it small'. social.coop is way bigger, but maybe there are still things to pick up on?

Just short of ethnic cleansing of Uyghur Turkik people. Including arrest-by-algorithm
https://www.icij.org/investigations/china-cables/

@switchingsoftware
What platforms would you suggest for wiki hosting? Including system admin service. And a solid, easy to use wiki content admin interface?

Also for website writing (and hosting), with tools as good as, say, Wix? And a reasonable though not extravagant selection of templates.

@dilgreen How are you getting on with Tusky on your mobile? I haven't been impressed by iPad apps for accessing Mastodon. But the Pinafore interface in the web browser is at least typographically clean
https://pinafore.social/
And you can run Pinafore in the Firefox sidebar on your desktop too
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/mastodon-as-a-sidebar/

UK Ways Forward radical cooperators’ meeting 2020 is July 4-5th @ Hebden Bridge. 150th anniversary, Nutclough Mill co-operative, trailblazing producer coops. Keynote by Andrew Bibby
http://www.andrewbibby.com/misc/allourownwork.html

Some introductory notes here on commoning
http://lowimpactcommoning.federated.wiki/view/welcome-visitors/view/commoning-for-lowimpactorg/view/further-notes/view/wikis
Includes a note on fedwiki - the link opens at that page. To go back to the welcome page, click coloured square, top left.
Do let me know if you get into a tangle in fedwiki? I'm experimenting with its hypertext capacity. Navigation is pretty unlike ordinary web pages - more powerful (?) but more opaque.

@johnkuti Was good to see you yesterday in the Zoom strategy call. Did anything in particular seem significant for you, I wonder? Best wishes

What kind of coop is social.coop? I begin to wonder whether it's most like a housing coop.
• We co-own some web infrastructure, and have a management organisation (of sorts) to deal with operational matters. But owning the infrastructure is not the main reason we're here.
• The main day-to-day reason for being in a housing coop, is the LIVES people can lead there? Not the owning or the property-manegement?

Likewise, is it the lives we mean to lead here as co-residents that are our core concern?

social coop strategy discussion @ zoom - weds
Some proposals for discussion posted in Loomio
https://www.loomio.org/d/qkHaAuoC/october-2019-social-coop-strategy-thread/37
@Matt_Noyes @mattcropp @emi @ntnsndr @bhaugen

Just found my way into Federated Wiki - hadn't realised that it was what I've been looking for, for a couple of years, to handle and share evolving knowledges. Indeed, I've been looking for it since I first fell in love - with Hypercard, 30 years ago. Writing and sharing WYSIWYG hypertext, in Markdown - yay!

Anyone here seriously into (using) #fedwiki? I'm on a learning curve and need to discover where geeks hang out. I hope it's not github. Or google hangouts

@mako @oli @bhaugen @richdecibels @Graham_Mitchell @dajbelshaw @mayel
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Is the rationalist ideology of free choice so embedded that we can’t acknowledge emergent properties of large aggregates of ppl?

Pls tell me these P2P self-reflecting data-analytic protocols and tools are actually out there, and I’m just listening to the wrong conversations!