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mike_hales 💔!?*  

Puzzled . . @mako makes a clear pitch on "Free software production needs free tools" youtube.com/watch?v=U_nK6nP_RC
And is very clear on and (though says most code comes from solo not collaboration!). Yet not a hint of coop ownership of to keep tools honest & open (GitHub!). Surely tools today become platforms? And platforms require collaboration even if code doesn't? So why doesn't follow automatically, as we talk tools? How does libre not equal coop in FLOSS world?

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:euclid: The_Gibson :euclid:  

Right now the fediverse is nipping at the heels of the silos.

They know we are here, and they perceive us as a threat. We know this from leaked emails from facebook.

That said, they could attack us in an oblique manner with any number of poisoned waterhole attacks.

Earlier today someone predicted one or more of those platforms just integrate activitypub and crush us by incorporating us.

Another pointed at the potential for procedurally generated instances that just harvest data, or overwhelm our ability to suspend all of the instances they throw up.

When these attacks are adapted to... they'll get concerned, and will try to frame us as part of "the dark web(tm)"...

That's how we'll know we're winning.

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sungo  

Thing about being a digital plumber is that your name gets lost to history. So, yeah, Time Warner Cable won a technical emmy for essentially inventing this era of video streaming on the internet, particularly to mobile devices. But I know whose handwriting was on that hotel napkin, which hotel’s logo was on the napkin, and I know who was at that hotel bar table. I know whose names were on the commits and who sold the dream to our CEO. No patent carries our names because slicker employees wrote patents based on our work. No standard carries our names because we were already on to the next impossible problem.

We didn’t cure cancer. We didn’t smash the patriarchy. But we did change the world. When you watch Netflix or Amazon Video, when you hit a porn site, or when you watch a Twitch feed, we’re there in the bits watching back. We are the nameless, the forgotten, the digital plumbers.

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Camille E. Acey  

It seems like all the enthusiasm to build food cooperatives in urban areas should be deployed to the depressed suburbs.

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Henry Edward Hardy  

Really, asking "what should replace Facebook" is putting things the wrong way around.

A more interesting way to ask the question is, "what did Facebook replace."

People used to build their own websites. People used to have blogs. People used USENET which was truly distributed and un-censorable.

Facebook and Google took the open internet and open standards and monetized and made everything crappy. Enough of that. Nothing should replace Facebook, it's done, stick a fork in it.

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gattavolante  

This is a statue located in Berlin, entitled "Politicians Discussing Global Warming."

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@Matt_Noyes Food for thought on places that solidarity economy doesn't reach? And his Left-redneck scorn for urbanites and liberals who sneer at ignore and abandon redneck poor gives me pause for thought on how (not) easy it will be to save the world with coops, free code, Open Apps and OpenValue systems of exchange. Though US is not UK, much thought here too for what underlies the Brexit movement, and how much hope the Preston model or Transition Towns do & don't have. Vital unsettling stuff?

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@Matt_Noyes Some time back you pointed me to Joe Bageant (Deer hunting with Jesus) thanks . . a strange and wonderful honouring of small-town Virginia redneck Irish-Scottish Presbyterian shotgun-loving working-class roots; and him, a cosmopolitan literate investigative ‘commie'. There's this short 2008 interview with him . .
hooktube.com/watch?v=n9J-Dy0Oc
and some good deposits of online archive . .
joebageant.org/
bageant.typepad.com/
thebaffler.com/salvos/toxicall
coldtype.net/joe.html

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@strypey Likewise
Found favourites thanks
Trying Halcyon - at first glance it's FB-ish ugh. Rarely think about followers, don't need the count always on screen, don't want suggestions on who to follow. Worst of all, I really *can't* find Favourites here.
However, responses visually connected to toots seems like it might be helpful.

So am warmer to Pinafore. Fonts a bit oversized IMO @nolan and vertical whitespace (linespace) using up screen height = more scrolling. Prefer Halcyon in this

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@gargron It seems suppresses sent DMs in the HOME feed, once the page is refreshed. But I can see DMs sent to me, in NOTIFICATIONS and, if I select one of those to view the whole thread, in the panel showing that thread I can read my own DMs. Inconsistent. A bug. I would like to be able to see my own sent DMs!

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Toxicodendron 💚 Radicans  

An average car emits 650g of CO₂ per km driven. An average person travels 25km to get to work each day. Commuting by car emits an average of 32.5kg of CO₂ daily. (Based on data from the US.)

An adult tree absorbs up to 21.8kg of CO₂ per year. It would take one tree 1.5 years to absorb what one person can emit in a single day.

In the US alone, over 6 million more cars are registered annually. Each year we destroy 18.7 million acres of forest worldwide, killing roughly 1.1 billion trees.

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What has happened to code in recent updates? Used to be possible to extract a URL from a toot's <Embed> link, which would display a sequence of Mastodon (social.coop) toots. No more! Please can we have this back again? It was so helpful to be able to extract a flow of exchange in this way, maybe to make a txt copy of it for keeping elsewhere (since Favourites management in Mastodon is so poor).

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Strypey (AFK until end of Feb)  

Day 1 of Sowing the Seeds started off with a big picture overview by Michel Bauwens of the #P2PFoundation, and sociologist scholar and labour activist Professor Pun Ngai from the University of Hong Kong. She set out to place the #PlatformCooperative movement in the context of the Chinese socialist revolution, and I'm looking forward to rewatch this video and try to understand more deeply what she was arguing:
invidio.us/watch?v=gFTfdfg000Q

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@bhaugen I think this is the early-stage draft of the P2PF report you referred to "Full spectrum accountability etc"
<docs.google.com/document/d/1hG
Can you confirm we're on to the same doc?
@strypey

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Re-tooting . . @bhaugen to @strypey @mike_hales
We're working to get there.

This github.com/valueflows/vf-apps/ was written as an appendix for an upcoming P2P Foundation report
entitled "Full-spectrum accountability and commons-based production for planetary survival":

They want to couple it with some work on biophysical limits from James Quilligan.

Also want to add connections to Emergy accounting: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emergy

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Re-tooting . . to @strypey @bhaugen
ValueFlows looks v important Not just as use-value supply-chain operations-management infrastructure for a local/trans-local economy. But extremely important once algorithms and metrics for environmental/thermodynamic impact/exchange *with nature* get wired in. Then we'd be equipped to engage in P2P governing of all kinds of *commons* - material/digital, natural/urban, customary/contemporary - as well as operate networks of coop trade. This is a Big One?

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Re-tooting . .
@strypey to @bhaugen
I can see that the scope of ValueFlows is a lot broader and more ambitious than anything I've worked on

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@bhaugen wrote elsewhere
. . economic vocabulary [ValueFlows, for example]. To get it to work for many situations, we need to generalize to the point where it becomes abstract, and then we need to make the abstractions concrete again to apply to particular situations.

Inescapable problem. Anybody have thoughts on guielines for minimum-necessary generalisation? Include many illustrative (narrative?) instances, maybe?

Though isn't design intrinsically big-to-small-to-big-again etc?
@strypey

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Strypey (AFK until end of Feb)  

@bhaugen it's not really important at the level of standards and protocols. #ActivityPub doesn't care if an instance has a single user or millions, for example. But it does matter when it comes to how we think about #UX, admin interfaces, moderation structures and rules and how they're set, portability of accounts, deployment and provisioning, financial arrangements, legal structures; ie where the mechanics of digita tech meet the dance of human *organization*.

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