Puzzled . . @mako makes a clear pitch on "Free software production needs free tools" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_nK6nP_RCY&feature=youtu.be
And is very clear on #commons and #P2P (though says most code comes from solo not collaboration!). Yet not a hint of coop ownership of #platforms to keep tools honest & open (GitHub!). Surely tools today become platforms? And platforms require collaboration even if code doesn't? So why doesn't #coop follow automatically, as we talk tools? How does libre not equal coop in FLOSS world?
If you're in America, instead of sending money in for Notre Dome have you considered sending money into one of the black churches who were arsoned?
One in Louisiana seems to have had some funding success on the back of this other popularized tragedy.
But there are a lot of other churches that haven't got the attention this one did.
On a meta level is kind of fucked up that the attention economy plays a role in hypocrisy of taking care of each other.
General question for social.coop -- how should we make decisions about which tools to use?
In a recent phone chat one person suggested google hangouts and others suggested Zoom and we agreed to use the latter.
Do we need some protocol or etiquette on this?
The fediverse is Mastodon, Pleroma, Diaspora, Friendica, Hubzilla, Osada and all their friends, federating. But what do we call all the silos, the ad-based family of Facebook, Twitter, Reddit and friends? How about Adverse? It's true: a universe founded on ad serving. And a reminder that the offer plenty of adversity.
@bhaugen d’you have any #OAE Open Apps/ValueNets thoughts on this question? What happens, now that #P2Pcommons is a further historic option, alongside state/market/firm? Is there any AI/big-data development going on, on the side of the angels?
>the advent of machine learning is reopening the state vs market debate. Which between state, firm or market is the better means of coordinating supply and demand?
Right now the fediverse is nipping at the heels of the silos.
They know we are here, and they perceive us as a threat. We know this from leaked emails from facebook.
That said, they could attack us in an oblique manner with any number of poisoned waterhole attacks.
Earlier today someone predicted one or more of those platforms just integrate activitypub and crush us by incorporating us.
Another pointed at the potential for procedurally generated instances that just harvest data, or overwhelm our ability to suspend all of the instances they throw up.
When these attacks are adapted to... they'll get concerned, and will try to frame us as part of "the dark web(tm)"...
That's how we'll know we're winning.
Thing about being a digital plumber is that your name gets lost to history. So, yeah, Time Warner Cable won a technical emmy for essentially inventing this era of video streaming on the internet, particularly to mobile devices. But I know whose handwriting was on that hotel napkin, which hotel’s logo was on the napkin, and I know who was at that hotel bar table. I know whose names were on the commits and who sold the dream to our CEO. No patent carries our names because slicker employees wrote patents based on our work. No standard carries our names because we were already on to the next impossible problem.
We didn’t cure cancer. We didn’t smash the patriarchy. But we did change the world. When you watch Netflix or Amazon Video, when you hit a porn site, or when you watch a Twitch feed, we’re there in the bits watching back. We are the nameless, the forgotten, the digital plumbers.
Really, asking "what should replace Facebook" is putting things the wrong way around.
A more interesting way to ask the question is, "what did Facebook replace."
People used to build their own websites. People used to have blogs. People used USENET which was truly distributed and un-censorable.
Facebook and Google took the open internet and open standards and monetized and made everything crappy. Enough of that. Nothing should replace Facebook, it's done, stick a fork in it.
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The experience only became a visible aspect of everyday life in the British Isles with immigration of colonial workers post-WWII. Levy’s ‘Long Song’ shows the C19 weaving of that But the really enlightening story is Levy’s own post-WWII biography broadcast last week https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b0bw9d69/imagine-2018-andrea-levy-her-island-story
Both available to stream for a month - though not sure if available outside the UK.
The US and UK are very different but slavery, capital & class are all twined together in both.
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Recently I’ve been reading to see more clearly the relationship between class and colour in the US, and the powerful place of slavery in that. And I’ve been saying to myself, politics in the US and Britain are so different here . .
Last week a 3-part drama screened on BBC1 offsets that naive view - Andrea Levy’s ‘The Long Song’ https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b0bw9b86/the-long-song-series-1-episode-1
Slavery was fundamental in C18 British capitalism but with the manifest violence occurring on another continent.
@Matt_Noyes Food for thought on places that solidarity economy doesn't reach? And his Left-redneck scorn for urbanites and liberals who sneer at ignore and abandon redneck poor gives me pause for thought on how (not) easy it will be to save the world with coops, free code, Open Apps and OpenValue systems of exchange. Though US is not UK, much thought here too for what underlies the Brexit movement, and how much hope the Preston model or Transition Towns do & don't have. Vital unsettling stuff?
@Matt_Noyes Some time back you pointed me to Joe Bageant (Deer hunting with Jesus) thanks . . a strange and wonderful honouring of small-town Virginia redneck Irish-Scottish Presbyterian shotgun-loving working-class roots; and him, a cosmopolitan literate investigative ‘commie'. There's this short 2008 interview with him . .
and some good deposits of online archive . .
Found favourites thanks
Trying Halcyon - at first glance it's FB-ish ugh. Rarely think about followers, don't need the count always on screen, don't want suggestions on who to follow. Worst of all, I really *can't* find Favourites here.
However, responses visually connected to toots seems like it might be helpful.
So am warmer to Pinafore. Fonts a bit oversized IMO @nolan and vertical whitespace (linespace) using up screen height = more scrolling. Prefer Halcyon in this
@gargron It seems #mastodon suppresses sent DMs in the HOME feed, once the page is refreshed. But I can see DMs sent to me, in NOTIFICATIONS and, if I select one of those to view the whole thread, in the panel showing that thread I can read my own DMs. Inconsistent. A bug. I would like to be able to see my own sent DMs!
An average car emits 650g of CO₂ per km driven. An average person travels 25km to get to work each day. Commuting by car emits an average of 32.5kg of CO₂ daily. (Based on data from the US.)
An adult tree absorbs up to 21.8kg of CO₂ per year. It would take one tree 1.5 years to absorb what one person can emit in a single day.
In the US alone, over 6 million more cars are registered annually. Each year we destroy 18.7 million acres of forest worldwide, killing roughly 1.1 billion trees.
What has happened to #Mastodon code in recent updates? Used to be possible to extract a URL from a toot's <Embed> link, which would display a sequence of Mastodon (social.coop) toots. No more! Please can we have this back again? It was so helpful to be able to extract a flow of exchange in this way, maybe to make a txt copy of it for keeping elsewhere (since Favourites management in Mastodon is so poor).
Day 1 of Sowing the Seeds started off with a big picture overview by Michel Bauwens of the #P2PFoundation, and sociologist scholar and labour activist Professor Pun Ngai from the University of Hong Kong. She set out to place the #PlatformCooperative movement in the context of the Chinese socialist revolution, and I'm looking forward to rewatch this video and try to understand more deeply what she was arguing:
@bhaugen I think this is the early-stage draft of the P2PF report you referred to "Full spectrum accountability etc"
Can you confirm we're on to the same doc?
#LibertarianSocialist #designer #anthropologist #P2Pcommons
See ResearchGate . . www.foprop.org . . https://www.lulu.com/shop/search.ep?contributorId=1295273
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