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PeerTube is a project that is similar to Pixelfed in a lot of ways, it has a lot of really clever engineering under the hood, but it was held back by the lack of official mobile apps.
Glad to see them working on official apps, and I have no doubt we will see the same type of surge that Pixelfed has seen, once their app is polished and easier to use.
Long form video platforms like PeerTube and short form platforms like Loops compliment each other, and encourage interop between our projects
@dansup In general having a polished mobile app does help user growth, I don't think PeerTube has been "held back" by the lack of just a good app.
As for "surges" as experienced in Mastodon and Pixelfed, you know perfectly well it's not just about the quality of these platforms/products.
Personally I think PeerTube is fine where it is right now, but if you want to define it's success by metrics, then PeerTube's biggests problems are:
- YouTube
- Storage costs
- Content quality
@dansup Furthermore, what people tend to forget in their usual X vs. Y mindset, is that from a long-form video attention economy/space perspective PeerTube is also up against all the streaming giants like Netflix, Twitch, etc.
in calmness @smallcircles@social.coopI think one thing that held further adoption of @peertube back is that almost every fedizen when passing along a vid in a toot, uses the copied/pasted vid URL inline in toot text.
Almost no one take the 2sec. to look up the URL in their Mastodon or other microblogging client, and *directly* interacts on the video, by liking and adding interesting discussion threads below these videos (and imagine all the cool cross-refs to recommneded other vids that could be made here).
@frankstrater @dansup @peertube
Other than that.. I started calling current AS/AP fedi the "as soon as possible" fediverse, where necessarily early app implementations served as the de-facto reference implementations for the #W3C #ActivityStreams and #ActivityPub open standards.
At serious cost: Ever increasing #ProtocolDecay and subsequent #WhackaMoleAdoption i.e. retaining app-by-app interop pipes against moving release targets.
When is Video domain getting standardized? That's my question.
@smallcircles @frankstrater @dansup @peertube great idea! I'll see about getting a task force started for it in the #SocialCG.
@smallcircles @dansup @peertube AP video object standardization would certainly help platforms like PeerTube, Loops, etc.
I wish people would just boost PeerTube AP posts, instead of "quote tweeting" the PeerTube video Open Graph URL, but I remain pessimistic about sustainable alternative video platforms. Having "interesting discussion" threads on videos doesn't improve anything. It's the same road to toxicity which has been traveled before.
@frankstrater @dansup @peertube
It is the road to toxicity only if your social experience design allows it to be.
One thing where the next-gen #SocialWeb must focus is how to 'weave' an app's #UX seamlessly with that of the next app. Not on narrow integration pipes, and hope and pray that feature sets on both ends of the #UI line up. But based on #SX #BusinessDomain models that are commonly accepted and that focus on addressing needs and fitting in with common patterns of #social interaction.
@smallcircles @dansup @peertube
I don't want to sound too cynical, but how much design/technology/innovation you throw at it, you can't solve the main social media problem, which is... people and their brain, which has an appetite for negativity (drama)
Next-gen SocialWeb should be federated, small and "flagship" instances like pixelfed.social and mastodon.social, should adopt a subscription model (something like $12 a year)
CC @Gargron
@frankstrater @dansup @peertube @Gargron
I am not advocating to throw tech at things and see what sticks to the wall. That I call what others dogmatically pursue and think is what people want: #DigitalTransformation
We live in a #technosphere and a big chasm of missing #sociosphere must be bridged.
I'm hobbying along here in #fedi advocacy for years hoping to share dreams of #peopleverse. This I now continue at #SocialCoding movement under the flag of #SocialExperienceDesign (or simply #SX)