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@whereisk I guess the hope would be that they might be able to find a place again in the future.

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@whereisk I guess the hope would be that they might be able to find a place again in the future.

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#Weeknote 45/2024
https://dougbelshaw.com/blog/2024/11/2 4/weeknote-45-2024/

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#Weeknote 45/2024
https://dougbelshaw.com/blog/2024/11/2 4/weeknote-45-2024/

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@FantasticalEconomics Oh you'll love this then: https://youtu.be/kYfNvmF0Bqw

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@FantasticalEconomics Oh you'll love this then: https://youtu.be/kYfNvmF0Bqw

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@FantasticalEconomics Indeed, I'd use the analogy of Blockchain and cryptocurrency. It wasn't that long ago that people were saying that we needed to teach that in schools.

I'd argue that we need to 'teach' all kinds of stuff in school, but the main thing is that young people realise that nothing is inevitable. And that, as Steve Jobs said, everything around you was invented by people who are no smarter than you.

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@FantasticalEconomics Indeed, I'd use the analogy of Blockchain and cryptocurrency. It wasn't that long ago that people were saying that we needed to teach that in schools.

I'd argue that we need to 'teach' all kinds of stuff in school, but the main thing is that young people realise that nothing is inevitable. And that, as Steve Jobs said, everything around you was invented by people who are no smarter than you.

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@captaincalliope I know, right? I'm sad and impressed at the same time

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@captaincalliope I know, right? I'm sad and impressed at the same time

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I remember a talk at the Thinking Digital conference which talked about this kind of stuff. Except it was people *choosing* to be part of a different nation to where they were based geographically.

That seemed unlikely, and continues to be - so I can't imagine people being allowed to live next door to one another and follow completely different laws, taxation, etc.*

It's more likely to be similar to dual nationality.

*Yes, yes, I'm anticipating your snarky comment about the UK class system 😉

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I remember a talk at the Thinking Digital conference which talked about this kind of stuff. Except it was people *choosing* to be part of a different nation to where they were based geographically.

That seemed unlikely, and continues to be - so I can't imagine people being allowed to live next door to one another and follow completely different laws, taxation, etc.*

It's more likely to be similar to dual nationality.

*Yes, yes, I'm anticipating your snarky comment about the UK class system 😉

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This is tragic but also super-interesting. They already have 25 countries who have formally agreed to recognise their digital nation.

If they end up with many more, as I should imagine they will, it's a step further than what Estonia have done.

Tuvalu will exist as a diaspora, as a nation state with borders which only exist digitally.

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This is tragic but also super-interesting. They already have 25 countries who have formally agreed to recognise their digital nation.

If they end up with many more, as I should imagine they will, it's a step further than what Estonia have done.

Tuvalu will exist as a diaspora, as a nation state with borders which only exist digitally.

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Wow, Tuvalu is likely to be the first country to disappear due to climate change, so they're creating a digital twin to retain national sovereignty.

https://www. tuvalu.tv/about

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Wow, Tuvalu is likely to be the first country to disappear due to climate change, so they're creating a digital twin to retain national sovereignty.

https://www. tuvalu.tv/about

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@gueuledatmosphere Yep

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@gueuledatmosphere Yep

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@mj Right, but that's a top-down solution and will always lag behind what's happening on the ground

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@mj Right, but that's a top-down solution and will always lag behind what's happening on the ground

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@fgraver Yep, I remember when people used to discuss this kind of stuff without just making proclamations about it 🙄

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@fgraver Yep, I remember when people used to discuss this kind of stuff without just making proclamations about it 🙄

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@anakin78z Thanks!

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@anakin78z Thanks!

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Why are replies from people with profiles on mastodon.education filtered by default for social.coop users?

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Why are replies from people with profiles on mastodon.education filtered by default for social.coop users?

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People don't like the 'ethical problems' around genAI, but what's the solution - not to discuss them? To put the genie back in the bottle?

Scrub to 07:44 in this video and see how a course can explicitly discuss this in the context of formal education: https://youtu.be/t9gmyvf7JYo?feature=s hared&t=464

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People don't like the 'ethical problems' around genAI, but what's the solution - not to discuss them? To put the genie back in the bottle?

Scrub to 07:44 in this video and see how a course can explicitly discuss this in the context of formal education: https://youtu.be/t9gmyvf7JYo?feature=s hared&t=464

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@kev I'd say "send it to me anyway"

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@kev I'd say "send it to me anyway"

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I guess what pisses me off about the current discourse about generative AI is the lack of nuance. People take a position, and then pump out content (social media posts, blog posts, articles, videos, etc.) which backs up that position.

There's a massive lack of nuance in either the pro-genAI or anti-genAI 'debate'. It's just aping toxic political discourse, and people like me get stuck in the middle, reviled by both camps for saying "hang on a minute..."

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I guess what pisses me off about the current discourse about generative AI is the lack of nuance. People take a position, and then pump out content (social media posts, blog posts, articles, videos, etc.) which backs up that position.

There's a massive lack of nuance in either the pro-genAI or anti-genAI 'debate'. It's just aping toxic political discourse, and people like me get stuck in the middle, reviled by both camps for saying "hang on a minute..."

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The assumption seems to be that "teaching" kids about tools such as ChatGPT means showing them, procedurally, how to use it.

But procedural knowledge isn't the only thing that gets taught in (good) classrooms. Young people learn about what to look for, when it's appropriate to use a technology, etc.

In Maths tests, for example, they routinely have 'calculator' and 'non-calculator' papers. Because we realise that there are some times when you need to do things without recourse to technology.

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The assumption seems to be that "teaching" kids about tools such as ChatGPT means showing them, procedurally, how to use it.

But procedural knowledge isn't the only thing that gets taught in (good) classrooms. Young people learn about what to look for, when it's appropriate to use a technology, etc.

In Maths tests, for example, they routinely have 'calculator' and 'non-calculator' papers. Because we realise that there are some times when you need to do things without recourse to technology.

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If your position about a new technology being used by the general population is "it has no place in schools" then who are you expecting to teach young people about it?

Because they will learn.

They'll learn from trial-and-error, they'll learn from their peers, they'll learn from TikTok videos.

And all of that will have the focus on minimising the effort they have to put into the more pointless parts of schooling.

Teachers and academics call this 'cheating'. And then blame the students.

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If your position about a new technology being used by the general population is "it has no place in schools" then who are you expecting to teach young people about it?

Because they will learn.

They'll learn from trial-and-error, they'll learn from their peers, they'll learn from TikTok videos.

And all of that will have the focus on minimising the effort they have to put into the more pointless parts of schooling.

Teachers and academics call this 'cheating'. And then blame the students.