@Antanicus Although Apple got away with including a micro-USB dongle to their proprietary connectors...
@bhtooefr still, they had to obey the regulation. I take that as a point for the EU standards :)
@Antanicus this needs to be taught in schools, free markets basically never work in the long run.
@Antanicus you forgot the fucker... you know, the white brand...
@Antanicus and boy was there opposition to this!! Phone manufacturers where crying wolf, claiming the sky will fall down, etc, etc.
All because they wanted to keep charging (no pun intended) users for their bullshit phone chargers a couple of bucks more.
@rysiek @Antanicus gaia think of the waste all those charger variations must have produced, actually no scratch that I know how much waste it produces because my family stories everything and it normally falls on me to explain that "no these charges will be useful for absolutely nothing in the future, they where manufactured to be replaced almost immediately".
I keep some as well. I have a small collection of various voltage transformers. And I use them when I need some particular voltage and I find a match (must match max current as well). Connectors can be replaced ; sometimes I just directly connect wires.
just reminds me of my friends jury rigged PC power supply, he must have disassembled and rebuilt that thing a million times but I was always waiting for it to explode.
@Antanicus apple on Macbook Pro: usb c is the future.
iPhone X : lightning ports
LB: I boost this to comment on it.
1) The agreement was in 2009, not 2004. Micro-USB wasn't even released as a spec until 2007.
2) The ten largest phone manufacturers voluntarily agreed to standardize, by offering either μUSB ports on phones or μUSB adapters for their proprietary plugs.
3) The EU wasn't the reason for the agreement; they were following a trend. GSMA, the global cell carriers' association, and the Chinese government had already published similar mandates.
@noelle "reduce electronic waste" these plugs are cheap and fragile as fuck, it was not common back in the day to buy new chargers for your phone because they didn't break that easily
@Antanicus depends on the definition of “efficient”. Your definition is minimizing the number of adapters in landfills and compatibility between devices. That is good from a consumer and environmental standpoint, but less so for vendors that may have made more money by selling more proprietary adapters.
@Antanicus so this is the bad guy, huh?
SERIOUSLY, (redacted by myself), microUSB sucks.
miniUSB is a million times better. For a small tradeoff of a few cubic milimeters of space, we would get a connector that doesn't suck (i.e. works after two years of everyday charge instead of just falling out of the port)
I've found a reference about a 2009 specification (not 2004). It isn't mandatory to respect that specification. But apparently, it helped :)
Fairphone does not sell by default a charger with new phones, assuming most people already have one, which is quite right. But of course they have been criticized for "not even putting the required charger in the box to save money". Strange world we live in...
About Apple, which did sign in 2009, "The Commission does not have evidence that Apple has breached the [MoU] agreement. The iPhone 5 can be used with an adaptor allowing it to be connected to the common charger." (same wikipedia source https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_external_power_supply#Reception).
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