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Fireside FediTomorrow <a href="https://social.firesidefedi.live/tags/episode" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Episode</a> 6 of <a href="https://social.firesidefedi.live/tags/firesidefedi" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#FiresideFedi</a> with my <a href="https://social.firesidefedi.live/tags/special" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#special</a> <a href="https://social.firesidefedi.live/tags/guest" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#guest</a> <a href="https://piefed.social/u/rimu" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@rimu</a> . 1600 Eastern, UTC-4. Rimu leads the <a href="https://social.firesidefedi.live/tags/piefed" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#piefed</a>.social project. <a href="https://social.firesidefedi.live/tags/owncast" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Owncast</a> <a href="https://social.firesidefedi.live/tags/livestream" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Livestream</a>: <a href="https://stream.ozoned.net" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://stream.ozoned.net</a> <a href="https://social.firesidefedi.live/tags/peertube" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Peertube</a> <a href="https://social.firesidefedi.live/tags/vod" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#VOD</a> afterwards: <a href="https://video.ozoned.net/@show" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://video.ozoned.net/@show</a> <a href="https://social.firesidefedi.live/tags/castopod" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Castopod</a> <a href="https://social.firesidefedi.live/tags/fedicast" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Fedicast</a> <a href="https://social.firesidefedi.live/tags/podcast" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Podcast</a> afterwards: <a href="https://audio.ozoned.net/@firesidefedi" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://audio.ozoned.net/@firesidefedi</a> <a href="https://social.firesidefedi.live/tags/fsf" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#FsF</a> <a href="https://social.firesidefedi.live/tags/people" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#people</a> <a href="https://social.firesidefedi.live/tags/fedi" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#fedi</a> <a href="https://social.firesidefedi.live/tags/fediverse" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#fediverse</a> <a href="https://social.firesidefedi.live/tags/protocolsoverplatforms" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#protocolsOverPlatforms</a> <a href="https://social.firesidefedi.live/tags/peoplefirst" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#peopleFIrst</a> <a href="https://social.firesidefedi.live/tags/socialbackinsocialmedia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#socialBackInSocialMedia</a> <a href="https://social.firesidefedi.live/tags/socialmedia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#SocialMedia</a> <a href="https://social.firesidefedi.live/tags/peopleoverplatforms" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#peopleOverPlatforms</a>

RimuNo more duplicate posts <a href="https://piefed.social/post/538685" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://piefed.social/post/538685</a>

julianHi <a href="https://piefed.social/u/andrew_s" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@andrew_s@piefed.social</a>/<a href="https://community.nodebb.org/user/freamon" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@freamon</a> and <a href="https://lemmy.ml/u/nutomic" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@nutomic@lemmy.ml</a> —I'm working (not-so-secretly) on refactoring NodeBB so that it is able to "browse" remote audiences/group actors, and that would include things like PieFed and Lemmy communities. N.B. Given varied nomenclature (group/category/community/subforum), the ForumWG calls this structure an "audience". Where I am at now is working through the logic for slotting an object into a category. The most obvious choice here would be to look at <code>as:audience</code>. It's even specified in 1b12, and the majority of threaded implementations follow 1b12. I am making this post because nutomic <a href="https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/pull/5315" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">explicitly removed the <code>audience</code> from being served in Lemmy</a> (as of January this year), so I don't think relying on that property would be wise. I asked in that issue whether Lemmy finds community via <code>to/cc</code> (it does). Does PieFed do the same? Would this also open up the possibility of a topic/context being part of multiple audiences/communities? Interesting...

Jerry on Mastodon<a href="https://hear-me.social/tags/Piefed" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Piefed</a> has a great new feature. When you search for a community, it doesn't just look for communities that your server knows about, but it also looks through the <a href="https://hear-me.social/tags/Lemmy" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Lemmy</a> index, via LemmyVerse.net, to find Lemmy communities that you can then bring into the Piefed instance you're on.<a href="https://piefed.social/post/531611" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://piefed.social/post/531611</a>Want to join the <a href="https://hear-me.social/tags/threadiverse" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#threadiverse</a>? I use Piefed. It's new but powerful. You can find an instance to join here: <a href="https://join.piefed.social/try/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://join.piefed.social/try/</a>

RimuToday I made a auick and easy invitation system for <a href="https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/tags/PieFed" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#PieFed</a> communities. Invitations are sent by fedi private message (tested with <a href="https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/tags/Mastodon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Mastodon</a>, <a href="https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/tags/Lemmy" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Lemmy</a> and <a href="https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/tags/PieFed" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#PieFed</a> and email).<a href="https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/tags/fediverse" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#fediverse</a>

Chris TrottierI’ve created <a class="hashtag" href="https://atomicpoet.org/tag/piefed" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Piefed</a>’s first dedicated community to movies! If you’re on <a class="hashtag" href="https://atomicpoet.org/tag/mastodon" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Mastodon</a>, <a class="hashtag" href="https://atomicpoet.org/tag/akkoma" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Akkoma</a>, or <a class="hashtag" href="https://atomicpoet.org/tag/sharkey" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Sharkey</a>, follow it here:<a class="u-url mention" href="https://piefed.social/c/movies" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@movies</a> And if you’re on <a class="hashtag" href="https://atomicpoet.org/tag/lemmy" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Lemmy</a>, <a class="hashtag" href="https://atomicpoet.org/tag/mbin" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Mbin</a>, or Piefed follow it here:!movies@piefed.socialFrom now on, all my posts about movies, including reviews, will be posted there. Everyone is welcome and you’re allowed to chat about whatever movie-related things you like. 🎬🍿<a class="u-url mention" href="https://piefed.social/c/fediversenews" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@fediversenews</a> <a class="u-url mention" href="https://lemmy.world/c/fediverse" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@fediverse</a>

SnoopyPiefed : les feeds publics francophone <a href="https://piefed.social/post/503135" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://piefed.social/post/503135</a>

Jerry on Mastodon<a href="https://hear-me.social/tags/Piefed" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Piefed</a> (<a href="https://hear-me.social/tags/Reddit" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Reddit</a> alternative), and <a href="https://hear-me.social/tags/Lemmy" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Lemmy</a> and <a href="https://hear-me.social/tags/MBIN" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#MBIN</a> alternative too, has added a nice new feature called "Feeds" which is like multi-reddit. You can create your own public feeds by combining a number of communities together. People on any other Piefed instance can subscribe to your feed.If you're interested in using Piefed as a Reddit alternative, or checking out this feature, I run a public instance, <a href="https://feddit.online" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://feddit.online</a>. You can see all Piefed server choices at <a href="https://join.piefed.social/try/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://join.piefed.social/try/</a><a href="https://piefed.social/post/500805" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://piefed.social/post/500805</a>

RimuPieFed adds multi-reddit, multi-community feature <a href="https://piefed.social/post/500805" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://piefed.social/post/500805</a>

Rimu<a href="https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/tags/PieFed" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#PieFed</a> just added a multi-reddit feature, which we're calling "Feeds". It combines multiple Communities (actors of type "Group" in ActivityPub) into one. Feeds can be followed from other PieFed instances, which will subscribe the follower to all the communities in the feed.Try it out at <a href="https://piefed.social/feeds" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://piefed.social/feeds</a>It's similar to PieFed's concept of a Topic <a href="https://piefed.social/topics" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://piefed.social/topics</a>, except topics are maintained by the instance admins. Feeds are crowdsourced and federated topics.<a href="https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/tags/fediverse" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#fediverse</a>

David B. HimselfOne thing that prevented me from jumping on the Lemmy bandwagon was the UI that I found underwhelming and a bit unpractical (and I'm someone who prefers the "old Reddit" UI and who doesn't mind the vanilla Mastodon). That was until I discovered Piefed! Very similary to Lemmy (I assume it's a fork - update: I'm being told that it's not a fork, my bad) but with a much nicer UI. It also has a great onboarding except for the part where it automatically signed me up to too many topics. (thanks <a href="https://atomicpoet.org/users/atomicpoet" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@atomicpoet@atomicpoet.org</a> for putting it on my radar) <a href="https://firefish.city/tags/Reddit" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Reddit</a> <a href="https://firefish.city/tags/Lemmy" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Lemmy</a> <a href="https://firefish.city/tags/Piefed" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Piefed</a> <a href="https://firefish.city/tags/Fediverse" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Fediverse</a>

Chris TrottierEverything on this <a class="hashtag" href="https://atomicpoet.org/tag/piefed" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Piefed</a> community does not originate from Piefed:<a href="https://piefed.social/c/lumoura" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://piefed.social/c/lumoura</a>It originates from <a class="hashtag" href="https://atomicpoet.org/tag/akkoma" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Akkoma</a> or <a class="hashtag" href="https://atomicpoet.org/tag/pixelfed" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Pixelfed</a>. Specifically, I’m sending posts that originate from <code>@atomicpoet@atomicpoet.org</code> and <code>@atomicpoet@pixelfed.social</code> to <code>@lumoura@piefed.social</code>. Now why would I do this? Because I want to:<ol><li>create photo streams around a unique aesthetic</li><li>de-couple certain content away from my personal accounts</li><li>allow people to experience that content through different social media lenses</li></ol>Yes, I believe this is a very big deal—which is why I talk so much about it.

Chris TrottierGroup actors are essential to the Fediverse. They’re the best way to create a community and have a topical discussion. For example, I might want to talk about PC gaming. Without group actors, I have to hope someone who follows me also likes PC gaming which, considering the demographics of people who tend to follow me, is not so likely. I also like to write about aesthetic things. Which is also an interest of mine that isn’t generally mainstream enough for the Fediverse. And music? People on <a class="hashtag" href="https://atomicpoet.org/tag/mastodon" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Mastodon</a> don’t want to talk about that either. So how to solve this problem? By tagging a group actor on <a class="hashtag" href="https://atomicpoet.org/tag/lemmy" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Lemmy</a>, <a class="hashtag" href="https://atomicpoet.org/tag/piefed" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Piefed</a>, or <a class="hashtag" href="https://atomicpoet.org/tag/nodebb" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#NodeBB</a>. Preferably, one that has to do with the topic you want to discuss. And believe me, this is more effective than hashtags.

Chris TrottierHere’s screenshots of all four photo-based <a class="hashtag" href="https://atomicpoet.org/tag/piefed" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Piefed</a> communities I’m running.Now if these posts look familiar, that’s because I’m posting them from <a class="hashtag" href="https://atomicpoet.org/tag/akkoma" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Akkoma</a> and <a class="hashtag" href="https://atomicpoet.org/tag/pixelfed" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Pixelfed</a> – and they’re submitted to Piefed by tagging the relevant communities. This is what I mean when I say that people on <a class="hashtag" href="https://atomicpoet.org/tag/lemmy" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Lemmy</a> are seeing something drastically different from what you’re seeing on <a class="hashtag" href="https://atomicpoet.org/tag/mastodon" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Mastodon</a>.

Chris TrottierClick the “username” at the end of this message, and <a class="hashtag" href="https://atomicpoet.org/tag/bluesky" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Bluesky</a> acts in a very interesting way. It perceives the “username” as a URL, and takes you to <a class="hashtag" href="https://atomicpoet.org/tag/piefed" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Piefed</a>. <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/atomicpoet.pixelfed.social.ap.brid.gy/post/3lipzbdku5r22" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/atomicpoet.pixelfed.social.ap.brid.gy/post/3lipzbdku5r22</a>

RimuPieFed development update Jan/Feb 2024 <a href="https://piefed.social/post/491388" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://piefed.social/post/491388</a>

Chris TrottierI’m leveraging Piefed for something incredibly neat. You might notice that I’m tagging my photography posts with usernames. In fact, those are not usernames – they are <a class="hashtag" href="https://atomicpoet.org/tag/piefed" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Piefed</a> communities. And to get the full effect of what I’m doing, it’s important to visit each individual community for the full aesthetic impact. So here’s the links:<ol><li><code>@dustbloom@piefed.social</code>: <a href="https://piefed.social/c/dustbloom" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://piefed.social/c/dustbloom</a></li><li><code>@blue@piefed.social</code>: <a href="https://piefed.social/c/blue" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://piefed.social/c/blue</a></li><li><code>@lumoura@piefed.social</code>: <a href="https://piefed.social/c/lumoura" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://piefed.social/c/lumoura</a></li><li><code>@sizz@piefed.social</code>: <a href="https://piefed.social/c/sizz" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://piefed.social/c/sizz</a></li><li><code>@recordpics@piefed.social</code>: <a href="https://piefed.social/c/recordpics" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://piefed.social/c/recordpics</a></li></ol>More important is how I’m submitting content to those Piefed communities. From <a href="http://pixelfed.social" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">pixelfed.social</a> and <a href="http://atomicpoet.org" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">atomicpoet.org</a>, I’m uploading photos from those two servers: <a href="http://pixelfed.social" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">pixelfed.social</a> is my own artwork; <a href="http://atomicpoet.org" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">atomicpoet.org</a> is interesting art I stumble upon. After I upload a photo, I give it a description in a post, then tag it with the community “username” I want it to submit it towards.Once the post is live, the originating server sends the post over to Piefed, and Piefed reposts it to the community I tag. Voila! I now have submitted my post to an aesthetic and curated community, for which anyone can collaborate with me on.Within a day, we got lots of activity here – and several people are already interacting with photos posted there.<a class="u-url mention" href="https://lemmy.world/c/fediverse" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@fediverse</a>

Chris TrottierSizz is now on the Fediverse!I’ve created <a class="u-url mention" href="https://piefed.social/c/sizz" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@sizz</a>, a new image-based <a class="hashtag" href="https://atomicpoet.org/tag/piefed" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Piefed</a> community that is an evolution of r/Sizz, a subreddit that I started back in 2017 and currently has 37K subscribers.While other <a class="hashtag" href="https://atomicpoet.org/tag/sizz" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Sizz</a> communities exist on the Fediverse, this is the only one that I am involved with. Unlike the subreddit, this one will have relaxed rules for now – at least until there’s reasons to adjust them.Enjoy! This will be bustling quite soon!

Chris TrottierI wanted to see the current status of group actor support in <a class="hashtag" href="https://atomicpoet.org/tag/mastodon" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Mastodon</a>.This feature has been requested all the way back in 2016. It’s a feature request that is so old, it’s the 139th ticket. After it was made, <a class="u-url mention" href="https://mastodon.social/@Gargron" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@gargron</a> stated shortly after:<blockquote>I made a decision not to implement groups. They offer little benefit over a cost of added complexity, and the bangtag syntax personally irks me too.</blockquote>A year later, he re-opened the feature request and said:<blockquote>Reopening, but not high priority.</blockquote>No further update since then. Nearly a decade after this feature had been requested, group support has not been added and it’s still not a high priority. Now the intent of this post isn’t to wag my finger at Mastodon and say, “How dare they!” It’s clear that Mastodon is in a transitional state right now, and their focus is on other things – like quote posts and search. But it is to say that the development of this feature is so completely out of Mastodon’s control that it now represents an opportunity loss for the platform. Because the truth is – whether or not Mastodon supports group actors – many Mastodon users are using it anyway even though this causes quite a few UI/UX problems along the way. Namely, the common Mastodon user cannot differentiate between a single user account and a group actor. So now we have two groups of Mastodon users: those who want to make use of services like <a class="hashtag" href="https://atomicpoet.org/tag/lemmy" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Lemmy</a>, <a class="hashtag" href="https://atomicpoet.org/tag/piefed" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Piefed</a>, <a class="hashtag" href="https://atomicpoet.org/tag/nodebb" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#NodeBB</a>, and those who are completely unaware of those services and ask, “Why the hell is Mastodon acting like this when I try to interact with that account?”More to the point, group actors should be embraced because not only is this a valuable feature, but they’re also critical for community safety. No one can moderate a hashtag, but they can certainly moderate a Lemmy community.Like I said, though, development of Mastodon is ongoing – whether Mastodon participates or not. And that specific element of the <a class="hashtag" href="https://atomicpoet.org/tag/fediverse" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Fediverse</a> continues to grow, despite the fact that the most used Fediverse service (sans Threads) regards it as “low priority”. As long as Reddit and Facebook Groups users seek out an open, federated alternative, there will be demand for group actors.Why am I saying all this? Because this is my plea for better interoperability. It is certainly within Mastodon’s right to be picky about what features they implement. However, the Fediverse would be plainly better if Mastodon finally supported this important ActivityPub standard.<a href="https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon/issues/139" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon/issues/139</a><a class="u-url mention" href="https://piefed.social/c/fediversenews" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@fediversenews</a>

Chris TrottierI’ve created four new <a class="hashtag" href="https://atomicpoet.org/tag/piefed" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Piefed</a> photo-based communities. They are:<ol><li><a class="u-url mention" href="https://piefed.social/c/recordpics" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@recordpics</a></li><li><a class="u-url mention" href="https://piefed.social/c/dustbloom" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@dustbloom</a></li><li><a class="u-url mention" href="https://piefed.social/c/lumoura" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@lumoura</a> </li><li><a class="u-url mention" href="https://piefed.social/c/blue" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@blue</a> </li></ol>I’ll mostly be using these communities to post photos from <a class="hashtag" href="https://atomicpoet.org/tag/akkoma" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Akkoma</a> and <a class="hashtag" href="https://atomicpoet.org/tag/pixelfed" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Pixelfed</a>. Not only will they categorize these photos in a coherent manner, they’ll be open for other contributors, and also be easy to moderate.Why not use hashtags instead? Simple: anyone can use a hashtag and no one can moderate them. Which means they’re easy to spam.For my purposes, groups are simply better.

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