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Richard Ashwell<p>Love this blog by Tom Murphy:</p><p>Do the Math - Using physics and estimation to assess energy, growth, options</p><p>Inexhaustible Flows?</p><p>"All the <a href="https://climatejustice.social/tags/RenewableEnergy" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>RenewableEnergy</span></a> technologies rely on non-renewable materials. Therefore, inexhaustible flows are beside the point. It’s like saying that fossil fuel energy is not practically limited by available oxygen for combustion, so we can enjoy fossil fuels indefinitely. Or that D–T fusion has billions of years of deuterium available, when there’s no naturally-occurring tritium (thus reliant on limited lithium supply)."</p><p><a href="https://climatejustice.social/tags/Collapse" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Collapse</span></a> <a href="https://climatejustice.social/tags/Doomerism" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Doomerism</span></a> <a href="https://climatejustice.social/tags/DoomerOptimism" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>DoomerOptimism</span></a> <a href="https://climatejustice.social/tags/Climate" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Climate</span></a> <a href="https://climatejustice.social/tags/ClimateChange" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ClimateChange</span></a> <a href="https://climatejustice.social/tags/Overshoot" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Overshoot</span></a></p><p><a href="https://dothemath.ucsd.edu/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="">dothemath.ucsd.edu/</span><span class="invisible"></span></a></p>
Shaun Chamberlin<p>Out on the <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/DoomerOptimism" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>DoomerOptimism</span></a> podcast today, a most stimulating chat I had with <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/ChrisSmaje" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ChrisSmaje</span></a> and <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/JasonSnyder" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>JasonSnyder</span></a>!</p><p>After my previous convo with Jason, Chris contacted us to suggest we all talk more about the cultural/spiritual aspects of where a <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/SmallFarmFuture" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SmallFarmFuture</span></a> meets <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/LeanLogic" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>LeanLogic</span></a>...</p><p>So that's what we did! 🖤 </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWKswmHmfOw" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="ellipsis">youtube.com/watch?v=MWKswmHmfO</span><span class="invisible">w</span></a></p>
Shaun Chamberlin<p>Just had a v enjoyable chat with <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/ChrisSmaje" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ChrisSmaje</span></a> and <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/JasonSnyder" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>JasonSnyder</span></a>, which I believe will go out on <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/DoomerOptimism" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>DoomerOptimism</span></a> next Tuesday.</p><p>After the below chat Chris contacted us to suggest joining to talk more about the cultural/spiritual aspects of where a <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/SmallFarmFuture" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SmallFarmFuture</span></a> meets <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/LeanLogic" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>LeanLogic</span></a>...</p><p>So that's what we did! 🖤 </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yni0F-3VVxo" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="ellipsis">youtube.com/watch?v=yni0F-3VVx</span><span class="invisible">o</span></a></p>
Paul d'Aoust<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mstdn.social/@DarkOptimism" class="u-url mention">@<span>DarkOptimism</span></a></span> great to hear; I&#39;ll queue it up soon! I&#39;m a bit surprised you hadn&#39;t been a guest yet -- in fact, a couple years ago when I first encountered it, I originally thought <a href="https://social.coop/tags/DoomerOptimism" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>DoomerOptimism</span></a> was the hashtag of the Shaun Chamberlin fan club! 😆</p>
Shaun Chamberlin<p>I joined Jason Snyder on the podcast of <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/DoomerOptimism" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>DoomerOptimism</span></a>, to discuss that relatively recently emerged network in the U.S., and the connections between our respective adventures living in post-collapse sequels to our present civilisation, on either side of the Atlantic!</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yni0F-3VVxo" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="ellipsis">youtube.com/watch?v=yni0F-3VVx</span><span class="invisible">o</span></a><br>(<span class="h-card"><a href="https://social.coop/@pauldaoust" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>pauldaoust</span></a></span>)</p>
gittaca<p>Interesting theory on why garden plants sometimes get overrun by insects:</p><p>1. over-fertilization with nitrogen <br> - can occur naturally after thunderstorms 🤯 <br>2. plants can neither suppress N update, nor speed up protein synthesis to match<br>3. N accumulates in amino acid form<br>4. On which insects thrive</p><p><a href="https://youtu.be/ZBS4xQoxKtI?t=3430" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="">youtu.be/ZBS4xQoxKtI?t=3430</span><span class="invisible"></span></a></p><p>🤔 With a semi-biochem-PhD background, I can't seen an obvious flaw in that. Maybe <span class="h-card"><a href="https://mastodon.online/@sarahtaber" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>sarahtaber</span></a></span> can weigh in on this line of argument?</p><p><a href="https://chaos.social/tags/Landrace" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Landrace</span></a> <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/gardening" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>gardening</span></a> <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/DoomerOptimism" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>DoomerOptimism</span></a></p>
Paul d'Aoust<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mstdn.social/@DarkOptimism" class="u-url mention">@<span>DarkOptimism</span></a></span> I was just thinking... I&#39;m part of this weird group of people on Twitter that call themselves &#39;doomer optimists&#39; -- mostly crunchy homesteaders and systems thinkers -- and for some reason I never made the connection between that banner and your slogan. You must&#39;ve primed me to be receptive to the idea of <a href="https://social.coop/tags/DoomerOptimism" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>DoomerOptimism</span></a>.</p>