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Robert Benjamin

We can make it better.

loomio.org/d/PRmF6WGO/call-for

www.loomio.orgCall for Social.Coop Revitalization Team volunteers. Please Read.Based on the painful and tumultuous events of the past few weeks it is clear to all members that Social.Coop is in dire need of fixing. Except that may not be the case. Many members may be unaware of the discord, what has been driving the urgent proposals, why there is talk of forking, and what prompted the departure of a number of new and longtime members. If nothing else the disconnect in communication/engagement vs action/in-action can be taken as clear signal in its self that Social Coop as an organization is not delivering on some base responsibilities it has to its members. Team Purpose: To bring together a diverse set of members to gather new and existing ideas on what is working for Social Coop and what is not with an eye on structural changes that would make the organization more accountable to all its member's needs. The team will present back a coherent reflection on the issues Social Coop is facing along with proposals/suggestions to fix them. Scope of team activities may include review of; - Collective vs Represenative Governance - Bylaws revisions - Legal Entity Choice - Membership roles, rights, and responsibilities - Diversity of membership (or lack there of) - Engagement of membership - Moderation of governance discourse - Common bond/community building - Role in larger Fediverse - Sustainability of volunteer work force - Financial sustainability of organization - Membership fees/subscriptions - Desired user/member growth Time Commitment: Through shared workload and clear participation guidelines every effort will be made be reduce the time load on any individual member. Team members can contribute as much or as little as they can. Diversity Note: This volunteer team is open to all existing members, however it is essential that leading roles are not held by members of one dominant identity or background. Efforts to ensure this may include recruiting non-members to fill leading or advisory roles. Facilitation Note: The team will commit to a mode and method of participation (TBD, possibly not on Loomio) that does not favor dominant personalities, and respects the contributions of each team member without expecting or requiring they defend their point of view or position. Every effort will be made to keep the internal conversation private including the occasional use of anonymous voting, etc. Remuneration: In commitment to the critical efforts it is recommended that the organization devote funds to the facilitation of the team activities. Upon showing progress, including the formation of the an active team with diverse leadership, a separate budget proposal may be submitted. Time Frame: The team will begin by listing and prioritizing issues that are emergent and non emergent and will work within its volunteer capabilities to expedite the most needed proposals and recommendations. Based upon the members participation level an official time-frame will be published and updated. Thread Moderation Note:* The purpose of this thread is to host the volunteer check poll and to clarify and answer questions (if known) directly related to the volunteer poll and team expectations. All sidebar conversations or responses will be asked to move to a different thread.*
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Christina Hendricks

@rbenjamin @emi Oh oops—just saw that you already posted. My apologies for not being able to comment beforehand.

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Robert Benjamin

@clhendricksbc @emi no worries. It's flexible enough to be improved in its execution but hopefully specific enough to have a chance at succeeding.

Really the level of attrition with so many members to burnt or afraid to engage at this point will be its biggest obstacle.

Hoping that with a strong core it will build the momentum and trust needed to bring many who have been disengaged or never engaged forward to take part in saving this organization.

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Christina Hendricks

@rbenjamin @emi I’m still thinking about it. Work just got very busy and I have so many other commitments too...I am considering whether I have the time and energy. Will decide soon.

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Ed Summers

@clhendricksbc @rbenjamin @emi it’s good to see you talking about it in here ... I think loomio has its place for voting but we need to be talking in here to build social.coop as a community.

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Ed Summers

@clhendricksbc @rbenjamin @emi one thing I like to do is have the .coop local timeline open in a column so I can see what other co-op-ers are up to without their posts being interleaved with all the others from people I follow. Do others do that?

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Emi

@edsu @clhendricksbc @rbenjamin

My local timeline hasn't been functional since the last upgrade... I'm not sure why, but it doesn't update like my other timelines...

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Ed Summers

@emi @clhendricksbc @rbenjamin although it would be good to investigate - I don’t think the local timeline shows replies ... so it’s possible that it’s just quiet? Do you see nothing at all?

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Emi

@edsu

I see content but it's usually a day or two old. And not from everyone on the instance. For example, I follow a few people on social.coop and I'll see their post in my home timeline, but it doesn't show up in my local timeline.

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Ed Summers

@emi yes I’m certain I’ve observed the same thing. I’m going to try to identify a post that should be in the local timeline that isn’t, to see if it can help.

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dazinism

@edsu @emi

Think i've noticed something like this since I joined although never really explored.

I mainly interact via Twidere on Android.

Noticed that some people who I follow, who are on SC, there posts dont show up on the SC public timeline.

Wondered if it may be something to do with the way the instance is set up on docker (not that I understand that)

Just thought, could it be the way some users have the privacy of their posts set?

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Emi

@dazinism @edsu

Well, it used to show up for me (before the update). And some folks show up, just really really delayed (on my home timeline their posts shows up in real time, but on the local timeline it shows up a day later)...

I also don't think it's affecting everyone. From what I've heard, others haven't been having the same issues?

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Matt Noyes

@emi Hey, any time for a chat later?

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Emi

@Matt_Noyes

sure

i think i should be tethered to my computer for most of the day

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Matt Noyes

@emi In about 90 mins, then. Thanks

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Emi

@Matt_Noyes
The wait at the doctor’s office is a bit longer than expected. But if not exactly at that time, a bit after.

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Christina Hendricks

@edsu @emi @rbenjamin I use apps for Masto on my phone more than the web interface. Local timeline seems fine on those but I haven’t checked for lags.

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Ed Summers

@clhendricksbc @emi @rbenjamin I dunno if it's changed for y'all -- but the local timeline seems to be fresher for me now.

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Emi

@edsu @clhendricksbc

I think it might be with the social.coop side. My local timeline for scholar.social seems to update more frequently? Also, posts from people I follow on social.coop still don’t show up on my local timeline despite showing up on my home timeline...

I’m just waiting for next update to see if it fixes itself :)

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Ed Summers

@emi @clhendricksbc one thing that might be worth doublechecking is logging out and back in again. The local timeline looks fresh for me now.

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Emi

@edsu @clhendricksbc

Thanks... I tried that. The local timeline on scholar.social seems to be loading at a regular rate, but then again, I'm not following as many ppl with that account so it's harder for me to compare.

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Robert Benjamin

@clhendricksbc @emi Great thanks. The way I'm hoping to structure the engagement initially to get things going will be to minimize time commitment for those involved. Something like just a series of polls etc. You would be free to contribute as you can.

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