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As @CaitlinWaddick writes here: https://www.loomio.com/d/16wSnmrt/fwg-organizing-circle-/15
We in the #SocialCoop Finance Working Group feel strongly that it is time to build out a serious Legal Working Group. This has been an ongoing discussion, but we need support on:
- Incorporation
- International membership
- Liability protections
- Emerging regs on social media
And this doesn't fall under the banner of any existing working group.
It would be ideal to have a working group composed of both professional lawyers and non-lawyers with an interest in relevant issues. We don't want an overly professionalized entity, but one that is above all accountable to our shared values.
Like the other WGs, stipends should be paid to participants.
Who might be open to taking the lead on forming a living Legal Working Group? The commitment might look like quarterly meetings plus being responsive to questions from other working groups.
People who have in the past expressed interest include: @beckett @mako @dazinism @sam @Matt_Noyes @Eliot_L @dmokreis @GiacomoSansoni
@coopartisans @FreeScholar @toddxy @JosephAndriano @BillySmith
Can you help? Maybe start by organizing an initial meeting?
Thank you!
@ntnsndr @beckett @mako @dazinism @sam @Matt_Noyes @Eliot_L @dmokreis @GiacomoSansoni @coopartisans @FreeScholar @toddxy @BillySmith
Being the lead would be difficult for me at this time. However, I am happy to be supportive of the effort and join it.
That said, if no one is willing to step up, I would be happy to facilitate the first meeting just so we can get the discussion going and discuss who will lead it.
@ntnsndr @beckett @mako @dazinism @sam @Matt_Noyes @Eliot_L @dmokreis @GiacomoSansoni @coopartisans @FreeScholar @toddxy @BillySmith
Assuming no one else wants to facilitate the first meeting, to ensure this does not fall through the cracks, if you are interested in this endeavor please respond directly to me with your availability for a 1 hour meeting in September using the social.coop Matrix video chat. Thanks!
@JosephAndriano Thank you so much for taking this up!
@ntnsndr Happy to help. I figure if we can do one meeting to at least elaborate on the scope of the problem and propose some solutions it would be a good first step.
@ntnsndr @beckett @mako @dazinism @sam @Matt_Noyes @Eliot_L @dmokreis @GiacomoSansoni @coopartisans @FreeScholar @toddxy @BillySmith Thanks for the reminder @CaitlinWaddick. Could those who are interested in this PM me with their availability in US Eastern Time the weeks of 10/6 & 10/13? Once I have responses we can take it from there.
@JosephAndriano @ntnsndr @beckett @mako @dazinism @Matt_Noyes @Eliot_L @dmokreis @GiacomoSansoni @coopartisans @FreeScholar @toddxy @BillySmith please don't use Matrix for meetings; not everyone has an account on Matrix (and an account is required). We have a meet.coop account for these sorts of things and you can set it to not require login. Thanks!
@sam @JosephAndriano @ntnsndr @beckett @mako @dazinism @Matt_Noyes @Eliot_L @dmokreis @GiacomoSansoni @coopartisans @FreeScholar @toddxy
I've never been able to get Matrix running properly on my current machine, and the only emails that their tech support team send me, do not contain any links where i can log in... 
Meet.coop works well. :D
@ntnsndr Sorry I don't think I have time right now to be involved although I think this is a worthwhile endeavor.
@ntnsndr @beckett @mako @dazinism @sam @Matt_Noyes @Eliot_L @dmokreis @GiacomoSansoni @coopartisans @FreeScholar @toddxy @JosephAndriano
I'll be happy to help, but i am currently undergoing chemotherapy, so while i can contribute, i won't be at my best for the next few years.
Please let me know when the initial meetings are taking place. :D
@BillySmith Damn! Chemo is so grindingly awful. My love and sympathy to you. May you be well again and never have to endure this any more.
@ntnsndr @mako @dazinism @sam @Matt_Noyes @Eliot_L @dmokreis @GiacomoSansoni @coopartisans @FreeScholar @toddxy @JosephAndriano
@beckett @ntnsndr @mako @dazinism @sam @Matt_Noyes @Eliot_L @dmokreis @GiacomoSansoni @coopartisans @FreeScholar @toddxy @JosephAndriano
That i'm receiving chemo is an example of good luck in the postcode lottery for treatment. :|
That my condition's are responding well to the chemo is more good luck. :D
The fact that i need the chemo is a different kind of luck... 
@ntnsndr @beckett @mako @dazinism @sam @Matt_Noyes @Eliot_L @dmokreis @GiacomoSansoni @coopartisans @toddxy @JosephAndriano @BillySmith
Better late than never... I am working on this in a larger way - anyone want to help?
https://communitybridge.com/cd/
Working to launch this in January leading with some local stuff that has larger footprint outside Boston and has some people involved in this already. The goal is to have several dedicated chat rooms for discussions and document editing together,
@FreeScholar @ntnsndr @beckett @mako @dazinism @sam @Matt_Noyes @Eliot_L @dmokreis @GiacomoSansoni @coopartisans @toddxy @JosephAndriano @BillySmith
I also missed this until I saw Micky's message. Although I'm still spread out too thinly on other projects, I would like to engage whenever possible. Has anyone approached the Cooperative Professionals Guild?
@FreeScholar @ntnsndr @beckett @mako @dazinism @sam @Matt_Noyes @Eliot_L @dmokreis @GiacomoSansoni @coopartisans @toddxy @JosephAndriano
This would be useful. :D
Anything that makes it easier to create co-operatives will help everyone.
The docs we create could be used to create simple templates that can be used by other groups without their incurring legal fee's.
CoopsUK have a similar set of model rules and templates docs for co-operatives operating in the UK legal system.
@FreeScholar @ntnsndr @beckett @mako @dazinism @sam @Matt_Noyes @Eliot_L @dmokreis @GiacomoSansoni @coopartisans @toddxy @JosephAndriano
Also one group of people from the LHS created a legal-structure generator for hackspaces, and after i spoke with them about mutuals, and, co-operatives, they added those in as well. :D
https://web.archive.org/web/20120708052828/oneclickorgs.com/
While this is designed for the UK legal system, versions for other legal jurisdictions would be useful as well. :D
@FreeScholar @ntnsndr @beckett @mako @dazinism @sam @Matt_Noyes @Eliot_L @dmokreis @GiacomoSansoni @coopartisans @toddxy @JosephAndriano
Here's a good analysis of the incoming legal changes in the UK in the Online Safety Act written by @russss :
https://russ.garrett.co.uk/2024/12/17/online-safety-act-guide/
Russ was one of the original founders of the London Hackspace. :D