My response to @GuerillaOntologist's post on the new California gig-worker co-op bill: geo.coop/blog/very-funny-co-op

"it's a conversation that I think should begin from a posture of constructive critique, not dismissive ridicule."

@ntnsndr @GuerillaOntologist

Great comment. Quick reply:
Yes to creative rethinkings, but they demand more critical thought, not less.
Yes to worker control, but we need to unpack that term, Those of us with union movement background are intimately familiar with the ways that term can be stretched and abused.
Yes to union/co-op collaboration, but is this P2P grassroots-led collaboration, or collaboration between top officials and non-cooperative employers?
And, UHW-W has a history...

@Matt_Noyes @GuerillaOntologist dismissing as "funny" is not especially critical thought. And as you can see, I am not accepting the current proposal uncritically. I think Josh is making some important points, but is overly dismissive of the potential as well. I would rather see proposals for improvement or replacement rather than purity test dismissals. There is space and time for this proposal to develop, and we should enter into that.

@ntnsndr @Matt_Noyes
If my title and my tone are your biggest complaints, I'm gonna count that as a win 😂

But seriously though, thanks for the detailed response. I didn't know you'd written about this specific proposal. Is it available somewhere on line, or is it in a book?

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@GuerillaOntologist @Matt_Noyes for example, ntnsndr.in/GovernableSpaces (undergoing major revision now based on awesome peer reviews).

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