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Lots of difficulties ahead though!

When moving fluid/volunteer-y/open projects into formalised structures tensions can arise. Why some people get paid, and others work for free?

Do you need to start time tracking? Put on a performance for the "official things". Bank accounts, legal entities... boards...

Maybe accidental inherit the general society culture of secrecy. Fear of sharing, crossing into grey legal areas?


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We can also start to ask what our needs really are.

Do we still need a fancy market-rate salary, with a fancy flat, fancy car, fancy holiday, fancy restaurant? Can we "check out" of these social/career/property ladders?

Many of our important needs are non-material and things like being seen, heard, understood, respected feel amazing and don't inherently need money to achieve.


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We can go further than this though and start to have more honest discussion about rates of pay, which are often hidden and vary wildly.

We can start to explore experimenting with wider economic networks, connecting to our whole supply chain, and creating a "bigger whole" than our individual siloed projects.

We can rethink what we mean by value, to include care work, not-tech work, and non-monetary ways of seeing our worth.


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Accountability is another reason for doing this. Helping understanding where money is coming from and where it is going.

We do open source, open data, but often become more closed when it comes to finances. Why not also open funding, open finances, open culture....


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Funding applications are hard for small teams, and it really helps to have templates, examples, to see what other people did.

Not only the final documents, but also the communications between project and funder.

Access to funding is often depending on knowing how to communicate in a certain way, and this is very unevenly distributed.

Transparency can help to share these ways.


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I'm coming from the perspective of developer/maintainer (or "gardener" as @cj used as a term) of @karrot a community organising tool, mostly used by food saving groups right now.

@dachary invited me to present because we had done our recent nlnet funding application transparently (

the transparency culture partly came from our history as part of the hippy project yunity (


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πŸ’» I did a presentation today on the topic of "Funding Free Software projects in a transparent way"

πŸ”— The presentation is available here

🧡 I'll make a little thread here as a "fedi edition" of the presentation.


I'm reminded of something David Graeber said:

"One thing that I’ve learned in academia is no one much cares what your politics are as long as you don’t do anything about them. You can espouse the most radical positions imaginable, as long as you’re willing to be a hypocrite about them."

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I see quite a lot of interesting things coming out of art and academic worlds.

But then it seems that's often where they stay.

"As SE organizers, we commit to... addressing the harm created by systemic oppression, including the ways we and our communities are both harmed by and benefit from dominance, privilege, and oppression. We understand this work takes place on a scale from the local and interpersonal level to that of global networks. Our... effort here is to begin collecting guidance on what practices are needed for this crucial work... Your contributions are welcome."


General advice/rant 

Stop trying to sell a vision. Build and sell the freaking, working thing!

If I really need you to build something for me, I'll come to you, not the other way around.

Karrot is a free open source platform for sharing real life resources (for example excess food, to prevent it going to waste).

You can follow the project at:

➑️ @karrot

The main instance is at

You can find the source code at

(The emphasis is on food, but the platform can be used to share anything.)

#Karrot #Activism #CoOp #CoOperative #FoodSharing #FoodAndDrink #FoodWaste #Food #FOSS #FLOSS #Libre #FreeSoftware #OpenSource #NGOs #Environment

We've been having a bit of a summer (well, autumn soon) pause for Karrot, especially as I (@nicksellen) have been on a bike tour 🚲 πŸ•οΈ

BUT we have very exciting news! πŸ“°

We're through to the next round of the nlnet funding thing we applied for πŸ€‘ πŸ’° πŸ’Έ

Will be bigger celebration if we get all the way, but nice to celebrate for now! 🎈 🍾

Found an interesting free eBook site. Standard eBooks takes public domain books from sites like Gutenberg and Internet Archives an then gives them a massage; typeography, spelling check, real metadata, modern eBook formats and more.

Here is a link to Henry George,'s , 1881 'Progress and Poverty'. George was an influential economist and proposed a single tax on private property, to fund public transportation and a basic income.

See also:

I'm using the wordpress activitypub plugin, posting over at @nick - but despite choosing to only use the excerpt and permalink as the activitypub content, it posts the whole post without formatting, and it looks a mess.

I am using the "more" block in each of my posts, usually after the first paragraph, and I'd assumed that "excerpt" is the bit before the "more" block?

any ideas?

I started a journey to fetch my bike that I had to abandon in Germany last year! πŸš΄πŸ•οΈ

The first part is a campervan trip 🚐, then will migrate to a bike trip later.

Updates will be over on my new travel blog (easier for non-fedi people) πŸ“

But you can also follow in here via @nick (thanks to activity pub wordpress plugin β™₯️)

Will be happy for comments! (First level fedi replies come through as comments on the blog) πŸ—£οΈ

Dating on the #fediverse ?

How cool would that be? Can we make it unique and much different and better than what regular #dating sites tend to offer? Much more than mindless swiping left of right, judging people like prize animals?

Participate in a brainstorm on #lemmy and let your imagination roam freely (well.. mind the CoC, though πŸ˜€ ).

Also, I wondered if @ntnsndr has connected with Cybernetics (anarchist or otherwise) at all?

There is some network/flow between co-ops, commons, anarchism, community organising, cybernetics, ... with some academic connection, some grassroots stuff...

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After reading Anarchist Cybernetics by Thomas Swann in our @karrot book club, he pointed us to the Anarchic Agreements 1&2 that he had worked on (see which had been used in some form in the creation of one of the groups that use Karrot (foodsharing Copenhagen). Nice circle!

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A Fediverse instance for people interested in cooperative and collective projects.