@yova @Manuela yes you need to deploy mailtrain, then configure it with a service to actually send transactional emails (I've used it with mailgun...). You could send from the server locally too but then have to manage reputation and stuff like that. It's hard to escape the email providers :/
But I do like the list and template stuff in mailtrain, if a little less than polished at times.
Maybe your friendly neighborhood hosting coop can set up an instance for you?
Why Mastodon and the fediverse are “doomed to fail”
-> a small rant about how the profit lens distorts our understanding of success vs. failure:
Want to know actual stories of people and groups using Karrot to save and share food?
Check them out here:
Next up I'd like to write more about one of Karrot's main features: creating and self-assigning pickups/activities at a certain place and time.
Toot by social.coop/@bruno
Hey :) This is an account for karrot - an open source community organising platform focused on resource saving and sharing.
We're currently being used by a bunch of groups around Europe who save and share food from being wasted (see https://karrot.world/#/groupPreview), but heading towards general community organising uses too.
We're into stuff like participatory design, democratic process, non/less-hierarchical structure.
We're open source (you can use our main instance, or self-host).
@kawaiipunk mine is a bit off, I used to have my phone in German, now in English. The interface in fdroid is English, but some app descriptions in German.
@johnnymac sounds a good read! but when I clicked the link it shows me this:
Please read this thread. #COVID19 https://twitter.com/DaniOliver/status/1279155358666305541
in capitalist tech: massive user growth ---> lots of money (funding) available --> pay fancy people to do fancy scaling things
in community project: massive user growth ---> aaaah everything is really chaotic now, there are loads of tasks that nobody wants to (or can) do... it's like actual work!! I thought this was meant to be fun...
the solution to me is to scale out, not up, federate don't grow. but still, people seem more focused on big ideas that need to scale up to be successful.
I get very exhausted when people use their knowledge about how things are done in the big tech / surveillance capitalism (or maybe just "capitalist") world, and try and apply it in totally different domains, like community-focused volunteer projects.
Almost all the implicit assumptions don't hold.
Capitalist projects have a lot of resources to solve problems because they are willing to engage in destructive and extractive behaviours.
If we remove that part, the equation massively changes.
@frankpodmore it depends a lot how the question is asked. Asking about refunding social programmes with "excess" police funds might get much more support.
I don't have a lot of faith that polls like this are a very effective way of determining policy. Or anything really.
Some kind of citizens assembly approach seems more promising to get into the nuances, support well informed perspectives, and find interesting/creative solutions.
@douginamug what's wrong with the fence? I like sitting here :)
I figure nobody really cares what I think about it anyway. Or is going to do much because of it.
It seems an oddly polarised debate to me. Exemplified by the responses so far.
Maybe there is no fence?
social.coop tech, widening server access
We need to give more people access to the social.coop server (and related accounts) so they can participate more fully in the tech group.
loomio polls now online --> https://www.loomio.org/d/jrbG5tue/server-access
I created it within the tech loomio subgroup, but would welcome any eligible (don't ask me to define that!) social.coop member to participate. It's not just a tech topic...
@jdaviescoates the consumer experience of privatised things is often very good. e.g. Uber. Good consumer experience on its own doesn't tell much of a story.
Maybe their intentions are good, but again, remember "don't be evil"? This is what I meant about encoding intentions in something more than non-binding utterances.
There is already a commons open source ecosystem ready and waiting to embrace it. The concept doesn't even need inventing.
@jdaviescoates the open source products are a commons. But I understand cloudron to be private/proprietary.
It's different to a physical commons resource, as digital commons remain available even if someone wraps them in a non-commons layer.
Anything that takes open source but manages access through a non open source gateway smells fishy to me.
I'm not in my best thinking state, but I imagine you can get some sense of what I'm getting at?
I'm sure many people thought about this already.
@jdaviescoates yes I get that now. I find your promotion of cloudron a bit excessively enthusiastic as I said. But more benign than self-interested.
Possibly nudging towards naive though if it does represent digital enclosure of the commons (as I suspect).
I would be interested to hear an analysis of it from a commons theory perspective.
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