gripe: all the good cellphone photography gear is made for expensive phones and I like my cheap phone

maybe it's time to get, like, an actual camera. like just a cheap point-and-shoot, not a DSLR or whatever

so. cheap camera or fancy phone? advice/thoughts?

@nev what kind of photography are you thinking of doing that requires more gear than a phone but less gear than a proper camera?

@nev what kind of gear are you looking into?

@wilbr stuff like phone cases with built-in lens attachments, or diffusers, or stabilizers...generally anything better than the standard clip-on lens.

@nev hmm gotcha. Yeah I'd just look for what phone or camera or gear combination is going to set you up with the best price and performance combination. I don't think anyone can unilaterally say that a given phone or camera or accessory is going to be better without you judging fit yourself.

I will say the camera you have with you is always better than the camera you left home though :)

@nev @wilbr Cheap point & shoot with screw-on thread (so you can add filters and thing like that) would probably ideal for you.

Macro lenses for DSLR cameras cost a lot of money, but because sensor size of point&shoot is so small you basically get macro mode photography for free.

@nev Just how "good" of a phone accessory are you thinking of? And should I assume you've already given aliexpress a good look for lenses/etc for the phone you have, or that are just a real adjustable adapter?

@trini my past couple phones have been mid-range motorolas, which are great as far as cheap phones go but the best I can do as far as lenses is, well, cheap clip-ons. and they don't fit on my phone unless I take the case off

@nev It sounds like you've exhausted the add a lense idea. I guess my next worry would be about getting a good enough phone + case that you can still add a lense on and is OK with the case. The wife has an iPhone Xs but still wanted a lense for close-up, and I think it fits OK with her otterbox case (but she doesn't like that lense anyhow). I wish I had a bit more to add on here.

@trini Motorola is annoying because their back cameras are further away from the edges of the phone (iPhones, for example, have the camera right in the corner), so the standard clips aren't long enough when you have a case on.

I'm the kind of person who uses a phone till the very day it dies and am loth to part with it lol

@nev I understand, I'm going to replace the case on my Samsung S6 before I replace the S6 :)

@nev i feel like you'll get more than like 2 months of use out of the camera.

@nev *2 years, rather

My phone isn't even 2 and its performance is seriously suffering

@filthypinko hmmm that is something I hadn't considered. I hold onto my phones for a while though (only on my 3rd smartphone...ever...and that's just because #2's battery died prematurely. DURING a Foodora shift. It was a nightmare)

update: never mind i can't afford a fancy phone lol. jesus christ they cost more than my laptop. i'm taking a nap

@nev depending on budget a refurbished previous generation model might be a good choice.

@nev I did a tonne of research a few months ago on how to put together an amateur photography kit with pocket change.

I never got around to publishing it but I can definitely hook you up with something really nice. I just need a sec to have a peek at what's on the market right now.

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