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I've come across quite a few books recently that make a connection between leftist politics, climate change and one or multiple of complexity science, complex systems, cybernetics, and systems thinking.

+ Doughnut Economics
+ Free, Fair and Alive
+ Anarchist Cybernetics
+ Emergent Strategy
+ Cybernetic Revolutionaries

And @lollonero just shared "Komplexität «Chaostheorie» und die Linke."

@neil
This article might be interesting in terms of these connections:
Thomas Patrick Pringle, The Tech Ecosystem and the Colony, 05/2021 environmentalmedialab.com/heli

“Perhaps no word describes the techno-ecological imagination of sustainability better than ‘ecosystem.’ ”

@jine Ah, thank you! I had watched All Watched Over By Machines of Loving Grace a while ago yet forgotten about that critique within it. Will be good to read this article and also rewatch the episode.

@neil
I have to say the general direction leaves quite a lot of desire for me.
what would be very important, f.e., in the technical realm would be the much more practical question of communication and information that any bigger social movement (before it can even reason to employ some system or cybernetics) will need, as zeynep tufekci points out in twitter and teargas.
the important questions to me in this sense are much more immediate and practical, but other than those where

@neil @lollonero (as i hinted) it is strictly necessary to be technologically innovative, we actually sorely need to find perspectives outside of the whole technoscientific rationality to motivate and guide change, else the world ist stuck seeming doomed i think.

@lollonero I agree that the motivation for change should come from outside technology and science. For the changes to last, perhaps some support from technology and science is needed.

@lollonero Anarchist Cybernetics is focused on that question of communication and political organisation - how technology might *support* communication and organisational structures that could have helped occupy/the movements of the squares persist.

@neil i might check that out :)
in Twitter and Teargas by Zeynep Tufekci I gained the impression that the evolution of Media, crowned by the latest phase of social Media has not been beneficial to social movements, esp in the West where these techniques are widest deployed... I think i already described that somewhen^^ on the other hand new developments always bring some chance.
I don't know how to make sure the Trend as a whole can be turned.

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