Matt Cropp ๐ŸŒฒ๐ŸŒฒ is a user on social.coop. You can follow them or interact with them if you have an account anywhere in the fediverse.

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Matt Cropp ๐ŸŒฒ๐ŸŒฒ @mattcropp

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@wakest @ExilianOfficial @tindall @JubalBarca

Was it my meme that @kaniini was referring to? The referent is unclear given the way that the thread's structured.

If so, not clear what norm was violated?

@mattcropp @JubalBarca @tindall @ExilianOfficial @wakest

the meme was peak bad look, and trying to get somebody who is shutting their instance down *in order to be destructive*, to instead transition it to a co-op governance model, is also a bad look in and of itself

@kaniini @mattcropp @JubalBarca @tindall @ExilianOfficial

not sure how its a #badlook to open a discussion about how users can transition to maintain a instance they have been using for the last year. I am sure there are hundreds of people who are using witches.town who would rather not have to go through the hassle of setting up mastodon all over again. you lose all your followers if an instance shuts down.

@wakest @ExilianOfficial @tindall @JubalBarca @mattcropp

it's a bad look, because the owner of the instance explicitly wants it to shut down, to be destructive.

in other words, you are preaching at somebody who doesn't care.

expecting somebody whose view is essentially "fuck mastodon" to transition it to new, cooperative ownership, instead of just rm'ing it, is not really reasonable

@kaniini @ExilianOfficial @tindall @JubalBarca @mattcropp I didn't tag the admin so I wouldn't say I was preaching to them. I have nothing against them saying fuck off to mastodon. its that they are taking 1000s of others with them over that edge. so I was bringing up how others could help that transition. I am not sure the best way to bring up this matter with the admin but I assume someone who is close to them would be key.

@wakest @mattcropp @JubalBarca @tindall @ExilianOfficial

the whole notion of migrating witches.town, which is owned by the person you did not tag, is complete fantasy

@kaniini @wakest @ExilianOfficial @tindall @JubalBarca

The meme was basically reflecting the sensibility that authoritarian unitary leadership & cantrol of infrastructure creates a systematic vulnerability for communities, while I believe to be true.

As to advocating for someone who's being destructive to choose a less destructive path, I guess I just fundamentally not seeing how that's a "bad look" at all?

@mattcropp @JubalBarca @tindall @ExilianOfficial @kaniini using memes with cartoons and characters that are known for their making fun of things seems for sure not the best way to entourage communication. comes off as troll-ish. I assume there was no ill intent but it is still good to be sensitive to such things. I can also see how people here talking about "saving" another instance can come off as savior-y. just talkin' over here.

@wakest @kaniini @ExilianOfficial @tindall @JubalBarca

Huh.

TBH I've never encountered a reaction like this to meme use in a social media conversations like this before. I tend to treat them as tools for summation and expression of sensibilities, so this feels like a new approach to their usage for me.

Need to think about it, I suppose...

@mattcropp @JubalBarca @tindall @ExilianOfficial @kaniini

I would think of it like if your having a serious conversation with someone about something its not the best time to crack a joke.

@wakest @kaniini @ExilianOfficial @tindall @JubalBarca

Okay, that makes some sense to me. Reflecting on my intention, the purpose was to create a piece of media that expressed what feels to me to be a core lesson/take-away from the episode, but I can see how, in context, it could feel like making light of a serious situation.

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