@starbreaker is that going to put an end to imperialism just because we did that, though? or will it just make us feel righteous as the world continues to go on as it was before?

do we need to take much more drastic action?

notice how chelsea manning took drastic action and there was a position she had to be in in order to do that.

@kittybecca I think it's going to take general strikes and massive civil disobedience at the bare minimum. It isn't enough for the soldiers to lay down their arms and say "non serviam". We workers need to down tools and say the same.

@starbreaker agreed

@starbreaker we need lots and lots and lots of people to disobey... and actually one of the most important parts of this is going to be getting the soldiers to disobey, to put their weapons down and walk away and say "i'm not doing this anymore." how do we get there?