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I've looked into several ways to "cheat" and fab a panel driver board using perfboard, "perma-proto"'s, etc. but each time I lay them out there's some problem that could easily be avoided with a custom PCB.

I might have to just bite the bullet and invest a day into learning ...

@jjg It takes more than a day, in my experience. I'm still blissfully ignorant of KiCAD, even after two weeks of trying.

Maybe some day, I'll try again.

@vertigo I fell in the gap of learning to design on paper when I was young. Now I'm working with things at both a small scale and level of repeatability that it probably justifies it.

Most of the EE folks I know push me toward Eagle, etc. but I want to stick to open tools that I can run off-line, so I think KiCAD is the best choice all things considered.

I'm not designing anything super complex, just more than I want to deal with on a perfboard (x8+ times :) )

@jjg I'm just saying I found KiCAD to be hard to learn. Not saying it's inappropriate for the job!

Quite the contrary, KiCAD has been used for some impressively sophisticated projects.

@vertigo @jjg I got used to kicad thanks to a Udemy course I found. It was for free and it was really basic but there was enough info to grow up independently.

I recommend you to go that way.

It not a really complicated software comparing to others but it has some peculiarities.

@ekaitz_zarraga @vertigo I’ll look for that (let me know if you have a direct link :) )

@jjg @vertigo Hmmmmmmmmm

I think I don't have a link to that...

BUT i have a link to more advanced shit you might don't need at the moment but you probably will in the future.

I can make a really simple videotuto if you like... IDK

@ekaitz_zarraga

I'll work-through their tutorials and ping you if I get stuck :)

Thanks!

@vertigo

@vertigo I don't expect to master it, I just need to be good enough to make a board with a couple through-hole IC's and some connectors :)

@jjg I haven't gotten far enough to actually do schematic capture with KiCAD. I mean, beyond placing parts that it already has in its library. Trying to, e.g., place a custom component (like an FPGA chip, for example) was the deal breaker for me. I just couldn't figure it out.

Also, I had intense difficulty going from schematic to PCB layout.

Ultimately, this is a Vi-vs-Emacs issue for me, I think. KiCAD: I *just* can't wrap my head around it. gEDA: I hate it, but I'm productive with it.

@vertigo I'm all about using whatever tool if you can create something cool with it :)

I had been leaning toward because I heard more about it but I wasn't aware of geda. Maybe I should look into that as well?

Mostly I just want whatever is the quickest way to get this board designed so I can order some made and see what I screwed up sooner 😂