One of the big things I'm taking-away so far reading the platform #co-op book is that we really need a standards-based reputation/identity system.
I remember reading some protocol-level work on this a few years back when I was getting into #unhosted architectures.
Clearly something that demands a decentralized approach.
@jjg as far as i can tell decentralized identity is really difficult. I think a big reason for the success of things like slack or facebook is that centralization helps control spam
@alienghic I thought facebook and slack were the *definition* of spam... ;)
Seriously though the approaches I remember revolved around hosting your identity on your own webserver under the same domain as your own email server and email was used as the identity "handle" (assuming I remember it correctly).
I've run my own email for years and see far less spam than I did when I used gmail/google apps, surprisingly.
@jjg cost of domain and difficulty running servers puts identity solutions based on that out of the reach of most people. I regularly see anonymous spammers on irc, something i don't on slack. Part of your less spam on your home domain may be due to others not finding it. I was getting away with pretty simple antispam techniques until i started contributing to Debian.
@alienghic Obscurity is certainly a factor, but I disagree that cost/difficulty are limiting factors.
I think a lot of effort has gone into convincing people that they are incapable of owning & operating these services but it's nothing compared to some of the other systems people consider essential (automobiles, for example).
Totally! Here's a pretty good read on that topic: https://coolguy.website/writing/the-future-will-be-technical/
There’s some evidence that primates are not well-suited to live in large groups and systems which constrain their ability to split-up and move-around may be at the root of a number of perennial problems we experience.
I believe it’s avoidable (at least theoretically ), but based on this mornings conversation the solutions may be counter-intuitive.
Need to do a substantial amount of research before I have more confidence.
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