Self-hosting conundrum.

After having taken the time to set up YunoHost, I've saved myself a little money and feel empowered.

However, I now have no direct imperative to financially support some orgs/projects I like and was supporting (GreenNet, Wallabag, etc).

I could self-host and donate, but then it probably ends up costing more if you factor in time and money combined.

I wonder if the purity of self-hosting everything goes a little too far.

I think perhaps my preferred middle ground would be ownership of data, and remunerating orgs I like to administer apps that operate on that data.

@neil I like the idea of co-ops where you have agency as part of the org which manages your data.

Not sure if theres any real good examples of this, where most/many user-owners are somewhat actively involved in the running and/or governance of the service.

has been an interesting project. Lots of engagement/excitement early on. Then 'the crisis', following which there was a massive disengagement & many people left. Nice to see ever more efforts to get people more involved.

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I've seen various projects try, not sure if any have discovered the magic that leads to high(ish?) levels of engagement.

Its great to be able to self host. But get feels that the ideas that drive it as an ultimate target are tied up with the values that have driven ever greater individualisation and atomisation in our societies. Not a great goal

I get it that many that 'self host' also expand this to family & friends, which is definitely moving, in what I feel, is a healthier direction

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