Thanks for all the help everyone
I also asked people to help me explain decentralization over on Bluesky, they might have a different perspective, so could you help boost my "skeet" over there? It would be good to get a comparative perspective https://bsky.app/profile/dustyweb.bsky.social/post/3lawxxnedzk2v
This is the really important one now. I probably understand ActivityPub enough now, thank you for the help. It would be really helpful to get a cross comparison with bluesky though
people are not being as helpful on bluesky
I think they don't like helping people understand protocols as much over there
thank you fediverse for accomodating my requests this will be a serious mark against bluesky if nobody helps me understand decentralized networks over there
This one guy was very helpful in explaining bluesky vs the mastodon network, he made diagrams https://bsky.app/profile/danabra.mov/post/3lawyht5b422k
people are also helping me understand whether bluesky is a blockchain https://bsky.app/profile/dustyweb.bsky.social/post/3lawys7vhc22v
@cwebber I would give you a comparison, but the sun has gone down, and it's dark out. I'll try again tomorrow, if the weather's good.
@Steve thank you good idea it's getting cold out
@cwebber
no, thank goodness!
@cwebber I like blockchains, when it makes sense to use them. But... Wow! Those comments? I like the vibe on Mastodon much better.
@cwebber
Whatever Bluesky is, it's not decentralized.
@cwebber Maybe I'm a blockchain?
@Xen4n thank you I will read the diagrams
@cwebber It was nice of him, but those diagram is wrong, isn’t it? Fediverse instances usually encompass the server and a web app, but it’s not always the case (i.e. GoToSocial).
@luca as I pinned on my Bluesky profile: I have never trolled anyone
@cwebber ah yeah interesting. I'm confused if the website bsky.app is still the only application that will display the content?
@cwebber he also wrote react js, from what i’ve seen he seems like a good guy
@cwebber have fun storming the reality studio
This might help explain Bridgy Fed in a handwavy, staircase wavy, kind of way.
(I suspect Piranesi's drawings of an imaginary prison inspired the scene from the first Harry Potter film.)
@cwebber i think my explanation was comprehensive, particularly what social networks are for
@davidgerard haha it was fun :)
@cwebber You need a ProtocolExplaining AppView for that which they haven't implemented yet.
@cwebber I think the main difference is that the fediverse is mainly techies (pardon my generalisation) while bluesky is more general public?
@credmp @cwebber I haven't visited the BlueSky, as I prefer the real one, but maybe an even broader generalization is that the fediverse is made up of people that have grown impatient trying to help people that show no desire to help themselves. Plenty of folks here are more than willing to share their knowledge, for FREE, without the need to "hit subscribe" for a back channel straw to a billionaire's coffers.
@cwebber what’s your call sign there?
I mean, they also only have a 300 character space limit. It's probably not very easy to explain a protocol with that x3
@cwebber I kinda thought this was funny and educational https://bsky.app/profile/justingarrison.com/post/3l72qdqwnwx23.
But the vibe over there is more - STONKS! To the moon! Don't worry about Block Chain Capital! Don't worry about how we're going to fund this long term! I say AT, you say PROTO! AT! PROTO! AT! PROTO! Woooo!
Trying to peek under the covers is maybe a bit of a threat over there right now? Not sure. The tribal nature and group think of these networks is strong right now.
Edit: this too https://bsky.social/about/blog/5-5-2023-federation-architecture
@erincandescent yes exactly
@erincandescent pretty good explainer tbh
@erincandescent @cwebber uh holy crap. this is really an uncanny shortcut. you're... absolutely right?
@cwebber bluesky is how the cool kids fill up their spare 5TB hard drives
@annika Annika this one is too accurate