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"No one is forced to use Facebook" 

I hear that often, but I know of many people who had to create accounts and start to use Facebook for things like classes, community participation, and family communication. It's assumed you have it, and we don't make affordances for those who don't.

Perhaps we're not forced with violence or laws, but we are strongly coercing each other to use it. I never created an account for various reasons, and I have lost touch with people as a result.

"No one is forced to use Facebook" 

There's obviously useful functionality there, but we need to separate and implement those useful functions somewhere else that isn't built on surveillance tech. Somewhere else that doesn't let distant (or nearby) creeps and bozos have instant access to all of us at any time.

"No one is forced to use Facebook" 

@cstanhope I was literally required to make an account for work when I started: "Facebook for Work". Once made, only your workplace admin can delete your account: mine never responded when I asked, as it became clear it was not actually being used. Thankfully it tanked at the workplace and Facebook had to delete the account when I refused to sign their GDPR policy.
I was also forced to make a Google account, and to sign their privacy policy, by work.

"No one is forced to use Facebook" 

@cathal Good grief. That's another strong avenue of coercion I have forgotten. I've managed to avoid that so far.

"No one is forced to use Facebook" 

@cstanhope Worse yet than Facebook is the embedded nature of Google Classroom which is currently being used by cash strapped School Districts everywhere since the Chromebooks are "free". What do you think is going on here?!

"No one is forced to use Facebook" 

@lps Yes. Good point. My step-kids (now graduated) were required to have google accounts.

"No one is forced to use Facebook" 

@cstanhope This so much. I have lost many people/relationships/community over the years because I don't have & never have had an FB account. Sometimes I almost crack because it really costs me not to have it, but so far I have resisted. It's bloody difficult though.

"No one is forced to use Facebook" 

@cstanhope Very true. So many people tell me "but it's the only good way we have to organize family events and parties!"

To most people, there's no alternatives because alternatives are much more complicated to use and/or not free.

"No one is forced to use Facebook" 

@narF @cstanhope

"To most people, there's no alternatives because alternatives are much more complicated to use and/or not free."

I think there is a lot of validity to this argument but also facebook is a DRUG first and foremost and so when people say this you have to consider your tech privilege but also the fact that you are speaking to addicts.

I don't use "addict" lightly here either, I truly mean addicted. I have been there and AM there. Its addiction.

"No one is forced to use Facebook" 

@cstanhope I'm privileged enough that I can afford the backlash of not having a facebook account. So I deleted mine last year and now I make sure to be that vocal minority saying: "I can't go to your event because I don't have facebook" and hope they realize their mistake and use different tools.

"No one is forced to use Facebook" 

@cstanhope "No one is forced to live in capitalism" 🤔

"No one is forced to use Facebook" 

@cstanhope
At school they force you to use softwear you don't agree to use as its "requiered" for your education. Luckly when honeclass was a thing they had to ask if they were allowed to record it. And if one said no, they didn't. Which staied true.

However at work. Thibgs a little diffrent. I have a workplace account now, despite never agreeing to it by anyone. No one even informed me avout it. It could have been worse tho. Not forced to use google for exaple

"No one is forced to use Facebook" 

@cstanhope Very true. I left Facebook years ago but recently joined Whatsapp because there is no way I can convince that big chunk of my family to use something else to keep in touch, as it is a tool that is particularly engrained in all aspects of the society they live in.

"No one is forced to use Facebook" 

@cstanhope

I was used to live in a place where the only actual way to get housing was through a facebook group which no one seemed to realize was fucking terrifying.

The community theater that I have variously been active at is also deeply ingrained with facebook and my refusal to use it has basically tanked all prospects of longterm relationships with those people.

I just miss out on all kinds of things because of it and it sucks.

"No one is forced to use Facebook" 

@Alonealastalovedalongthe That sounds awful. I am sorry. Based on reactions to my original too, there are many of us in this situation. :/

"No one is forced to use Facebook" 

@cstanhope You haven't lived until you've had an employer tell you that you need to set one up because you're dangerously out of demographic.

"No one is forced to use Facebook" 

@drwho Ugh. :(

"No one is forced to use Facebook" 

@cstanhope Yeah. My old boss still keeps tabs on me, which is why I never use it.

"No one is forced to use Facebook" 

@cstanhope Same. I had an account for years until I couldn’t justify it any more. There are many people whom I can’t get into contact with any more. I have email addresses of the most important people, though. Important to me, that is.

"No one is forced to use Facebook" 

@sandyman @cstanhope I'm with you guys. Even the most antisocial social networks are stickier than we'd like.

For example, my 85 year old mom posts to FB and it would be exceedingly difficult to transition her to something else. "Sorry, Mom, go open!" isn't really an option.

But I can say that I spend *much* less time on centralized commercial social networks than I used to.

(Although I'll admit that I wish there were a #Fediverse equivalent to #LinkedIn.)

"No one is forced to use Facebook" 

@cstanhope so much this. Deleting Facebook (or VK in my case) is only going to inconvenience yourself and your friends. You're the one missing out and making it hard for other people to, for example, organize events. You're not making the world better this way.

In other words, you can't change which social media platform you use the same way you would switch from one operating system to another.

"No one is forced to use Facebook" 

@cstanhope Everytime someone asks me: "Do you have facebook", a part of me dies.

"No one is forced to use Facebook" 

@cstanhope I had to leave in 2016 for the third and final time because of personal safety issues and stalkers

"No one is forced to use Facebook" 

@rosethorn I am sorry to hear that, and you bring up a good point that wasn't on my mind. Not everyone can safely use Facebook, but we assume they can.

"No one is forced to use Facebook" 

@cstanhope @rosethorn technically, I have one for name-parking reasons, but I never go on it, and I block the cross-tracking crap, but when asked, I say I don't have one

"No one is forced to use Facebook" 

@cstanhope

My entire experience with Facebook (prior to my escaping) was based on guilt and pressure from friends. So glad to be away from that now.

"No one is forced to use Facebook" 

@RussSharek That is awful. I have learned a lot about other people's experience with Facebook (and similar services) since I posted my original toot. I have learned that I really understated many of the surrounding issues.

"No one is forced to use Facebook" 

@cstanhope

I am torn between finding it difficult to be nice about it and respecting people's need to be connected to each other.

Makes me doubly glad for alternatives like the fedi.

"No one is forced to use Facebook" 

@RussSharek @cstanhope
It's funny, I never signed up to FB, though I did on Twitter.
Ever since it was new there was something about it which said to me "don't eat that mushroom".

"No one is forced to use Facebook" 

@cjd @cstanhope

I professionally and personally ate both mushrooms. Made me very ill. Happily in recovery from both now.

"No one is forced to use Facebook" 

@cstanhope And once you have a FB account it's hard to get rid of it.

"No one is forced to use Facebook" 

@cstanhope this is all too true.

Especially in developing countries

re: "No one is forced to use Facebook" 

@fluffy @cstanhope I used to have a facebook account during my uni days, but other than school activity I never used it. Me and my friends used it for a while after that for organizing lan parties, but at some point our group basically used facebook only for that and nothing else, so now we just organize our shit on whatsapp (yeah, I know).

At least I spread a lot of FSF and GNU awareness during those uni days. Sometimes out of trolling (I mean holy shit apple faggotry took a wild turn back then) but generally I was that GNU guy in a Microsoft-oriented university. I drove everyone mad there with how hard I resisted proprietary stuff.

@cstanhope my response to this argument is "no one is forced to use English"

Somehow we feel that Facebook's social connections are more meritous than any other, for instance the social connections with people who don't share your language. You build a social network out of the tools you have, and FB is just another one tool.

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