J.B. MacKinnon on the Wardrobe Crisis podcast - an accessible, mainstream-friendly conversation about the role of consumption and system change IRT climate change. thewardrobecrisis.com/podcast/

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24:53-28:50 - the system quality of mass consumption and the huge challenges of going against that
34:15 - what to do instead - relationships with those around you, time in the natural world, mastering skills, engaging with bigger movements, taking sabbath (a non-commercial break)

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