**Alex Schroeder 🐝** @kensanata@octodon.social · Jun 07, 2018, 16:03

**Alex Schroeder 🐝** @kensanata@octodon.social · Jun 07, 2018, 16:03

Alex Schroeder 🐝 @kensanata@octodon.social

Wire, Threema, or Signal? What am I going to recommend to friends and family on WhatsApp? I leaning towards Wire right now even though I used Threema in the past.

**Cathal Garvey** @cathal · 2018-06-07T16:20:21Z

Cathal Garvey @cathal

@kensanata
Not Threema, anyways: they talk a big security and privacy game but they're closed source, which is incompatible with privacy.
I tried Wire years ago and had issues with calls when I was behind a NAT connection, but I hear people raving about it these days so surely it's fixed? Signal I've used with my family with little issue: less feature-rich but the features work. When things break on non-Google/Facebook/Apple stuff, people are more critical and quit faster..

Jun 07, 2018, 16:20 · Mastalab · 2 · 3

**Alex Schroeder 🐝** @kensanata@octodon.social · Jun 07, 2018, 16:25

**Alex Schroeder 🐝** @kensanata@octodon.social · Jun 07, 2018, 16:25

@cathal Yeah, the closed source part is irritating. But then again they also have a business model I understand, so there’s at least that going for them.

**Ivan Agosto** @agosto182@gnusocial.net · Jun 07, 2018, 16:36

**Ivan Agosto** @agosto182@gnusocial.net · Jun 07, 2018, 16:36

@cathal @kensanata For only friends and family, the best way (my opinion) is mount a server XMPP (in a old PC) for private comunications, is very primitive but is private and secure. Other solution is use Riot, but dont have a good mobile app.