@fribbledom that aged well
@deltaidea there are, at present, four drinking vessels resting upon my desk
@datatitian Every time that happens, Bezos probably saved a dollar somehow.
@anaulin massive hierarchy enforced with the stick of being killed for dissent and the carrot of well... carrots, I'd assume, for the peasantry.
@realmaxkeeble Robotnik is just sephiroth after two decades with a desk job
@jackdaw_ruiz "let's just put all of their tags on a t-shirt"
@neil e.g. the national grid being nationalised because it's something everyone in the country relies on is good social ownership. Nationalising your local bus service would mean actually those who are involved with it would have only a very slim degree of ownership of it, so that's bad. Co-op ownership or maybe municipalisation (co-municipalisation across councils?) would be more appropriate or a better example of social ownership. I want a more descriptive word than social. representational?
@neil I actually prefer the model proposed by https://go-op.coop where a railway would be owned between passengers and workers. But yes municipalisation is also an important part of the debate. I wish there were a term which was a catch all for all these kinds of things (including public ownership). Maybe social ownership. And then something is better social ownership the closer the people who rely on it (either for use or work) are to owning it.
@frankpodmore encasing yourself in about 2 tons of steel to move around possibly not the most efficient thing in the world
Go-op bids for forward-thinking co-operative run railways in the UK 🚄 https://bit.ly/2Tg9K92
@J12t serialised a number object of some kind? What's in the file?
@fribbledom down with bash
I find this very interesting. Here George Orwell complains about the UK media as being self-censoring and overly centralised in ownership - far from needing government intervention the industry simply decides that certain topics "won't do" (the example in this case being criticism of Stalin during WW2) for discussion and those who step outside of this agreement are silenced (presumably with a swift reduction in column inches rather than by other means)
probably worth making sure that people are aware that there can be different classes of shares - like many VC firms do 'B' class shares with greater voting rights. but I'd just talk about that rather than clutter the slide up with it
@dajbelshaw although arguably this is only a problem for open access networks. Like a decentralised system of mutually economically balanced parties might be both a useful application of a trustless network and relatively tolerant to these attacks, although this all requires degrees of centralisation and trust to administer - which isn't great for trustless, decentralised networks.
software guy, wannabe cooperator
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