Calling anybody with experience with creating international multi-stakeholder cooperatives:

We're thinking about that form of org for which is now being worked on, used by, and implemented by groups in the US and several European nations as of now. Some Canadians were involved earlier and might return. People in other parts of North and South America and Africa have connected a bit.

So how do we do something like that?

What are the hurdles? Who are good advisors?

Oh, and how could I forget? Major contributors from New Zealand and Austrailia!

@bhaugen I read this article today about governing software project, hope it may help the discussion - imo it contains great insights

To expand on the idea a bit, we now have no formal organization beyond a website and some gitlab repos.

The vocabulary is being improved by @lynnfoster and me and other people working through use cases with user and implementer groups, and in some cases, by collaborations with other vocabulary maintainers (eg ).



So we think all of those people, spread out across most of the continents on the planet, are stakeholders and should have a say in the evolution of the vocabulary.

We try to make that happen informally, and will continue to do so.

And if any formalization happens, all of those people will be involved in the conversation and decisions.

@lynnfoster @bernini

@bhaugen Very interesting topic. Please keep the Fediverse up to date on your progress!

@bhaugen i was vaguely involved around the peripheral of an organisation, with members from various European countries that incorporated in the UK, as theres no nationality requirements for members/participants in UK corporate bodies. Banking needed some consideration (was solved by either a UK bank € account or an account with a European bank as most money in and out was in €s).

Im normally somewhat resistant to incorporating unless a legal body is needed for limited liability or to own stuff…

> Im normally somewhat resistant to incorporating unless a legal body is needed for limited liability or to own stuff…

In the case of it's neither of those issues. More like longevity and participatory governance of the project. It has a growing set of user groups and the whole thing is dependent on two old people.

A multi-stakeholder cooperative would be an appropriate organizational structure. Don't know how formal it needs to be.

@bhaugen …or enter into contracts, but i guess it can also give a greater feeling of solidness to an endeavour.

I wonder if something like is currently doing could be a viable non-incorporated alternative. Open Collective for transparent finances and for democratic distribution.

@dazinism thanks, those might be good models. We're watching.

So far, the core vocabulary project has no income, only the user and software development projects have any income, and not much of that.

I think eventually getting involved with an "official" standards body like ActivityPub did might be good. But that's a hard row to hoe. I've done it before. No time for that yet, and I hope done by other people, if at all.

The people of Enspiral may have some experience with some of these issues... :)

Thanks, good tip, at least one of them will most likely be involved in the conversations.

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