Still on FB because of activist groups and a few particular friends who refuse to move - like my brother from another mother Randy Fullerton. Recently, FB's algorithm's have been recommending books and films in Spanish that are all right up my alley. I'm guessing they are based on the profiles of my Spanish-speaking friends and respective likes/comments. Seems like my English language FB contacts are harder for the algorithms to read.

@irmalila

@Matt_Noyes @irmalila funny, I just posted today that I reopened an FB account to participate in activist groups

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It really sucks. If we could agree on some local activist toolstacks we wouldn't have to do this.

What if we used Mobilizon instead of FB groups/events, Matrix/Element for chat, and - this is looking ahead a bit - Murmurations for resource sharing and mapping? (Not to mention Mastodon for microblogging.)

There are lots of possible tools.

@mike_hales and @disco_coop are the toolstackers I look to.

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Short term toolstack could be an "extended trinity" like 1) sync: Element.io + meet.coop 2) Discourse/Loomio/, 3) Nextcloud+wiki 4) Social.coop + Mobilison + PeerTube and then specials stack like Odoo, Mailtrain, ...

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These tools aren proven and mature. However not all are following a decentralised or distributed architecture. We will need to continue exploring and investing in the ideal toolstack, that allows individuals to contribute seamlessly to different collectives without the need to multiply tools / UIs.

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Agree totally with @bobhaugen and @lynn that it's about protocols, open standard protocols for distributed architectures

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My greatest hope here lies with where promising projects like might build distributed hApps for collaborative and social net features

@Wtebbens
Your comment raised 2 questions.

One is the current states of those projects. I'm familiar with Hylo and doubt that they will ever migrate from their current architecture to Holochain. Not very familiar with Kizuna and Junto.

But my main question is will those projects ever be able to interoperate as is somewhat built into Activitypub/Fediverse projects.

(We're involved in both paths, Holo and AP.)

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@bhaugen
Are hApp developers implementing existing federated protocols like ActivityPub, matrix, ...? I'd hope so, as it would make a natural fit, but still challenging also.

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> Are hApp developers implementing existing federated protocols like ActivityPub, matrix

Not that I know of. However, Pospi of Holo-REA helped to develop and is using the same API as Bonfire in ActivityPubLand.

And here's one Holochain-related project that wants to use multiple protocols (which they confusingly call "languages"):
ad4m.dev/

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