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"Electric vehicles also emit substantial amounts of CO2, the only difference being that the exhaust is released at a remove – that is, at the power plant. [...] enormous amounts of fossil fuels are used to produce EV batteries in China and elsewhere, offsetting the supposed emissions reduction.

[...] in the context of Germany’s energy mix, an EV emits a bit more CO2 than a modern diesel car"

theguardian.com/environment/20

A rebuttal of the above article, pointing out that it is based on outdated data, and that it misses the system view of the problem: theguardian.com/environment/20

@anaulin I am wondering about the battery components. Isn’t it very dirty to recycle and dispose of EV batteries? Has that technology improved? ... Also, I never see the qualitative comparison between the point sources of pollution of individual dispersed oil-based vehicles with the pollution from power plants that produce the dirty energy charging vehicles. Assuming the quantity of pollutants were the same, dispersed pollution might be more problematic.

@CaitlinWaddick The rebuttal article claims that battery energy has gotten less dirty in recent years, and they also get recycled.

Taking a step back, it seems to me that we are likely to continue making progress in both having cleaner energy mixes, and improving manufacturing and recycling. So pushing for more EVs seems, from a system point of view, the better strategy: an EV you buy today will get "cleaner" as energy mix, recycling, etc, improves, while a combustion engine will stay dirty.

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