@mikeburns Zebras Unite is a co-op that supports startups with a social mission, many of which are also co-ops, and I imagine many of them are also software oriented.
@kel Pelican! I spent a week working on a commercial king salmon boat out of there in the midst of kayaking from Glacier Bay to Sitka. Brown Bar. White Bar. The tiny hydroelectric station. Such a weird little outpost in the endless mossy rain.
@ntnsndr And tried to give some feedback about the gut response I was having, about wanting to back away from it after a cursory look... as someone who already works for a tech co-op and would love to forget about HR stuff and hire people overseas. So I like, kinda the target audience. But it felt like I was seeing red flags and that felt sad, because it does seem like there's a great underlying idea.
@ntnsndr I got into a little back and forth over there already. I was initially like "OMG how has nobody done this already?! This is amazing." and then I ran into the crypto stuff. And then the "self-soverign" language. And then I saw that almost every face in all of their YouTube videos was a white dude. And then I was like "ehhhhhh, I dunno about this, maybe it's scammy libertarians." But I engaged because I trust Jason.
@ntnsndr having read the white paper, and watched the interviews w/ you and Jason and Yev, I don't get why crypto is involved. Why is that necessary to solve this problem? How is it beneficial? It just feels like an unnecessary layer of technical complexity. And one that I at least have a ton of negative associations with, from the endless parade of scams and cult-like manias that seem to be the norm for a lot of crypto applications. What's the reasoning there?
Hey @ntnsndr JasonW pointed me at Opolis when I posted a question about how we could hire remote workers overseas at Catalyst. And the idea of a co-op that exists to provide members with all the basic needs we've foolishly associated with "employment" in the US seems great and so obvious in retrospect! But...
Catalyst Cooperative has started publishing our US energy system databases online via Datasette, if anyone feels like poking around: https://data.catalyst.coop
I'm using NordVPN on Ubuntu, with a little python based service/daemon called OpenPyn that stands in for the GUI NordVPN has on other platforms. But there's no obvious status indicator -- am I connected? To where? Is there a good VPN indicator applet for Gnome3 that would be able to detect and display the connection details continuously?
"It is possible to change the system through reason, but humans often need a deep crisis to get reasonable." Andreas Hofer, speaking about the real estate crisis that allowed Zurich's co-op renaissance to begin, 25 years ago: http://assemblepapers.com.au/2018/01/25/co-op-city-zurichs-experiment-with-non-profit-housing/
@mattcropp Personally I don't think there's anything wrong with co-ops renting capital and paying a return. Obviously there's a risk, if you can't pay it back, but it enables other startup models beyond the slow-growth bootstrapping, and I think in some cases that can make sense.
Is anybody here familiar with the Edith Maryon Foundation in Switzerland? Starting in 1990, they've brought 100+ buildings in Germany & Switzerland into collective / cooperative management, for a variety of (mostly residential) social purposes. Pretty awesome! https://cooperativecity.org/2017/10/24/stiftung-maryon/
What if Usufruct had become the dominant property rights paradigm? We're ephermeral beings. Our "time of enjoyment" is temporary. What if Abusus was always held in common, in the public trust?
"The Fructuarius could make such changes or alterations in the thing as would improve it, but not such as would in any way deteriorate the thing, or even render the maintenance of it a greater burden."
More on the history of Usus, Fructus, et Abusus -- the three aspects of civil property rights in Roman law: http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/Roman/Texts/secondary/SMIGRA*/Ususfructus.html
McSweeny's should really join DSA... https://www.mcsweeneys.net/articles/i-will-do-anything-to-end-homelessness-except-build-more-homes
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