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Losing one's job (while being lucky enough to have some savings to go on) is the best way to understand how much time and energy menial jobs take out of one's life. To me, it feels like a rehab, like regaining some long lost ability or skill. The urge to create grows stronger as I get back to writing, reading, thinking, all while feeling a new energy that makes me want to run, excercise, improve... It feels amazing, though I know, in the back of my head, this can't last.

@Antanicus I agree 100%.

I lost my job once when I was younger and I realized that. I needed the money back then because I wanted to leave my parents' house.

After some time I got a new job, a much better one and long time later I decided to leave it because of many reasons (ethical reasons and stuff) but also because I wanted to feel free again and I wanted to recover my life.

@Antanicus I didn't recover my life totally because there are other kind of things I need to fix, but I feel more free now.

@ekaitz_zarraga glad to hear that! Freedom is always revolutionary, no matter what!

@Antanicus I am three days after the proper vacation (one I didn't have in a long time) and I feel that it drains everything from me! Perhaps I shouldn't work that hard?

@charlag I'd say never work hard, if you can avoid it: why putting alll that effort into making your boss rich?

@Antanicus I agree but I cannot explain my behaviour. I just like to work properly most of the time. Maybe I want to improve the project that goes to my resume (which I need badly to relocate)

@charlag that's a whole other story! If you feel like this particular thing is your chance to change your life, you're doing well to put effort into it

@Antanicus Yeah, when I look back to my twenties (when I burned out and spent a few weeks on anti-depressants) I'm glad for the experience. The shit that happens in life helps make you stronger and realise what's important.

I'm working four days per week now for an employer, but ideally I think I'd do three.

@dajbelshaw @Antanicus Agreed, first unexpected job loss was in late 20s mixed with burnout, a mild reveal of freedom but not a wakeup. Later after restructuring life to quit for a similar period, deeply experienced how much work takes away for only money. Further restructured and balanced with my wife's time, our household works for pay 10% of hours in the year instead of full time's 22%. We could maintain on 6%. We know we're lucky, and with specialized valuable skills, and happy with less.

@loppear @Antanicus Sounds like you've got it figured out!

Not sure what the percentage is, but I work from home four days per week, and my wife teaches one day. So I guess that's 50% of the total time we could both work, right?

@dajbelshaw @Antanicus A 40hr week split between the two of you is great, 11% by my math if you don't take significant vacation. (I like to think in terms of total hours not normalize the 40hr week - when I was young I worked 80hr weeks sometimes, and only a week or three of scattered time off). But listen closely to your sense that 3 days/week might be a better balance for you!

@loppear @Antanicus Yeah, I work from home, so number of hours working is both way more and way less at the same time. It's Schroedinger's home office. 😂

@dajbelshaw @Antanicus same here (and also true for teachers grading and reading), though having a young kid at home too is a handy reminder all the time I'm off the clock. If i had to include commute time in my prior life's accounts it's even more drastic, though by train at least it was usually time to read or nap.

@loppear @dajbelshaw
>when I was young I worked 80hr weeks sometimes
-holy crap! That's crazy!

Startup culture warps minds. My boss bought me an air mattress for the office - a red flag for all'y'all in hindsight. I was working 80hr weeks towards an arbitrary deadline, and just Mon-Fri as I was remodeling a house on the weekends. I had no life outside these things. As is the case for most who play startup lottery, I got nothing for it in the end, not the mattress or the house. Just a future smile when bosses would dangle the lure of a hypothetical bonus.


@loppear @Antanicus I worked at what would now be called a startup in the 1990s, and it was a crazy ride. There were situations such as "now we have to completely rewrite this application in 48 hours because I've discovered I had the wrong specification document from the customer". At one point an investor withdrew and bankrupted the operation, but it started up again with a different name.

After that I mostly worked at traditional engineering companies which had decades of working class history, which is an entirely different sort of working environment.

@Antanicus thats why we need Unconditional Basic Income

"Next time you read a a work of SF ask yourself whether the protagonists have a healthy work/life balance. ... What is this thing called a job, and what is it doing in my post-scarcity interplanetary future? Why is this side-effect of carbon energy economics clogging up my post-climate-change world? Where does the concept of a paid occupation whereby individuals auction some portion of their lifespan to third parties as labour in return for money come from historically?"